First Job

[Michael Havens]

that is a great idea! I wish I could have such brilliant ideas.....

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM, eric oyen <eric.oyen at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know what I should do… Recode all the man pages so that they are easier
> to read in braille. right now, trying to read a man page in braille is an
> exercise in frustration. the terminal window has that stupid bar at the
> bottom that makes reading sequentially nearly impossible without having to
> back scroll and then read more. from that point.
>
> The biggest problem I am seeing right now is that a man page editor
> included with most standard installs of Linux just isn't very accessible.
>
> Anyway, thats my take on a project I should do. It will be something to do
> while I am looking for work.
>
> -eric
>
> On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Mark Phillips wrote:
>
> > An additional thought. Once you find your programming passion, look
> around
> > for an opensource project that interests you. Spend some time helping out
> > on that project to hone your skills. There will be mentors there as well.
> > You may have to try a couple of projects to find a community that you
> like.
> > With a little hands on experience on one or more projects, you will at
> the
> > very least, have some real world development challenges/solutions to talk
> > about in an interview, something to put on your resume, and code your
> > potential employer can look at.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:07 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Since I started paying attention in about 1983, there has been an
> >> overwhelming demand for developers.  However the other side of this
> coin is
> >> gaining entry.  For me finding that door was not easy.
> >>
> >> One thing life has tough me is most employers are looking for skills
> and a
> >> track record, even for the entry level position.
> >>
> >> My suggestion is first to determine what your passion about.  Then learn
> >> it and do something on your own.  You might want to find a mentor who
> has
> >> experience in that area.  The mentor can guide you in what you will
> need to
> >> know to be entry level and what types of things you might do to show you
> >> have at least entry level skills.
> >>
> >> Once you have decent skills you may want to keep your day job and start
> >> doing side projects until the demand for your side projects over takes
> your
> >> day job.  This may be counter indicated for trying to find a job.  I do
> not
> >> know this for a fact, however I hear some or most employers do not like
> >> those who are entrepreneurial. However if you would like to be on your
> won
> >> this is a good plan.
> >>
> >> If working for yourself is not for you, then you might start contacting
> >> hiring managers and pitch yourself.  This will allow you to learn about
> the
> >> demand and what it takes to get one of those jobs.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------
> >> Keith Smith
> >>
> >>  ------------------------------
> >> *From:* Trent Shipley <trent_shipley at yahoo.com>
> >> *To:* "plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org" <
> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>;
> >> AzIPA <azipa at yahoogroups.com>
> >> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 5:48 PM
> >> *Subject:* First Job
> >>
> >> I would like a very entry level job in programming or in reporting.  I'm
> >> not worried about the offshore competition.  The advertisements say that
> >> after 5 years you make 60-80 K as a programmer.
> >>
> >> I have a degree in mathematics from 1989, a Master of Science in
> >> Information Management (from 2009), and more semesters than not I take a
> >> computer course at the community college.  I recently finished two
> >> semesters of C#.  I've take CS 205 in Java, but that was over 8 years
> ago.
> >> I just finished the first semester of Java.  I am now taking SQL Server.
> >>
> >> I am  working on a Certificate of Completion in Programming at Rio
> Salado
> >> Community College.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, the ads tend to ask for a 4 years Computer Science degree
> >> and a year of experience (presumably as an intern or employed in your
> field
> >> while still a student.)
> >>
> >> Also, I make in the low 40's with good benefits as an administrative
> >> assistant, and it looks like entry level jobs don't come close.
> >>
> >> Do I have a chance without leaving Phoenix?
> >>
> >>
> >>
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