networking printer with brothers Windows machine.

[Kevin Fries]

Rule #1 of Business -> Business is war, you do what you need to to
achieve your goals

Rule #1 of War -> The enemy of your enemy is your friend.  If you can go
to war and sacrifice someone else's soldier, it preserves your resources
for the fight.

Apple does not get this... And is probably the #1 reason they are
getting beat like a rented goalie by Google...

Basic rules of engagement... Don't follow them, and you may be able to
have early success, but will almost always have long term failure.  This
is why iPhones and iPads are loosing their market dominance.  Early
success is causing those that should be their ally to build competitive
products.

Its all stupid

Kevin

On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 10:57 -0700, Derek Trotter wrote:
> I'm not surprised Apple isn't fond of linux.  They want people to buy
> their hardware and their OS.  They want to control as much of the
> user's experience as they can.  Look at how they restrict what someone
> can do with an Iphone they own.  An Iphone owner has to have their
> phone jailbroken so they can run the software on it they choose.
> Apple doesn't want users replacing the batteries in their iphone and
> ipads.  They're replacing the screws with ones they had custom made so
> you can't find a screwdriver at the hardware store.  Follow the money.
> There's more money in it for them if you have to buy their hardware,
> their software and can't even get the bloody thing open to replace a
> battery without paying them to do it.
> 
> On 11/21/2011 10:08, Kevin Fries wrote: 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 09:54 -0700, Derek Trotter wrote:
> > > So there shouldn't be any problem making the mac talk to everything
> > > else on the network.  The mac uses samba.  The linux box does too.
> > > The mac and the linux box understand cups.  Am I right in my
> > > understanding that the Mac os is just BSD unix with the apple gui
> > > running on top of it?
> > Essentially,  So Mac will natively understand Cups and NFS.  Cups many
> > years ago was maintained by HP (though for some reason it kills them to
> > admit it), but was taken over by Apple.  Apple not only talks the open
> > printing protocol, it is the corporate sponsor, last I saw, and
> > therefore was essentially maintaining it.
> > 
> > Apple system and Linux systems are in some ways very simpatico with one
> > another, and in other ways very adversarial.  In a network environment,
> > Apple prefers Apache for web serving, Postfix for mail delivery, and
> > LDAP for central user authentication (though there is another central
> > admin service, Apple generally prefers LDAP).
> > 
> > Apple achieves this level of Linux harmony because at it heart, is a
> > core derived from NextSTEP which was in turn derived from large portions
> > of FreeBSD and NetBSD.  All the more reason why Apples antagonistic
> > behavior torwards Linux is puzzling.  When going to battle in market
> > dominance with Microsoft, you would thing they would do more to embrace
> > its brother, not diminish it...  But a brother it is, and therefore,
> > many of its systems come from the exact same parentage.
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 
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