Killing PLUG softly

Jim farli at cox.net
Wed May 19 21:44:32 MST 2010


I am with you, Kristian.  I have watched this LUG be reborn into a 
vibrant community.  I for one will NOT let Joshua and a few other 
stubborn ideologues interrupt the great technical discussions on this 
mailing list.

btw, could you trip Kobe on his way to the airport?

Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote:
> Guys.  I live in Los Angeles and am on every public mailing list in
> the world, even in other languages.  I am sad to see such discussions
> turn hostile on a LUG list, but I have never seen such activity in all
> my years.  I hope we can all get along and share in something that we
> can all agree on -- a useful discussion of Linux and related topics.
> Now who is with me?  :)  Let's s not be divided by opinion, but united
> by love of this wonderful Operating System...
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Alan Dayley <alandd at consultpros.com> wrote:
>> I've stayed out of this latest round of off-topic threads.  I am happy
>> to see vibrant discussion.  I am unhappy to see personal attacks and
>> other silliness.  I'm unhappy to see it go on and on.
>>
>> This is enough.  It's just enough.
>>
>> I don't go to a email list or forum on topic A to be drown in
>> discussions about topic W.  That topic W may be important, the points
>> and counter-points offered in brilliance and courtesy doesn't matter.
>> If the venue is supposed to be about topic A, the majority of the
>> conversation should be about topic A.  Etiquette and respect for the
>> community around the chosen topic dictate that other topics should be
>> minimal.
>>
>> It doesn't matter how strongly you feel about what someone said about
>> some off-topic post.  Continuing to reply off-topic such that the main
>> purpose of the community is drowning into the background is
>> disrespectful.  Don't do it.  For example, it would be rude of me to
>> go to a meeting of alcoholics anonymous and use my turn to talk so
>> that I might espouse the benefits of a vegetarian diet.  Don't do it.
>>
>> - Using the delete key is not the answer because that only masks the
>> destruction of the group's purpose.  And only masks it for one person.
>>  Same with filters.
>> - Flagging as "OT" is helpful but when the OT posts dwarf the
>> purpose-oriented information, such a tag is nearly useless.
>> - Moderation is not the answer because that will suck volunteer's time
>> and smacks of "babysitter-ism"  Do we really need to be forced into
>> good manners?  Really?
>>
>> This is a Linux email list created by a Linux User Group for the
>> purposes of discussing Linux and subjects directly related to Linux.
>> Period.  Politics should only be discussed when it directly effects
>> Linux/OSS/FS use and promotion in some way.  To continue all this
>> discussion of boycotts, immigration and the like is killing the core
>> meaning of the group.
>>
>> Stop.  Please.
>>
>> Alan
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