OT ditching Apple products due to boycotts?

Mon May 17 20:12:07 MST 2010

Well... we did steal it from Mexico. In a style that is reminiscent of the
Romans but is still distinctly American. In truth it is an awesome tail of
we want it, we can make claim for it, we can take it, and we are so cool the
rest of the world will demand you apologize to us for making us take it from
you. We are some bad as* mot** f**** :)
But that is just my humble opinion ;)

As for the rest of your rant - I agree with nearly everything you say, but
feel I need to state stuff any way
1) Strong boarder is good, but much like the war on drugs you can never have
a "tight enough" boarder when their is massive economic incentive. Or just
strong desire. Look at East Germany
2) This means we need a multi prong approach that opens up the boarder to
documented and permitted immigrant workers. The joy of this is if you are
not working you stay home. But since we allow so many of the workers in the
flow of people trying to break in (or just smuggle goods) become much more
manageable. It also means those people who are net drains on our services
are (by broad demographic) not flooding in. We also get to cut way down on
tax fraud from there employment
3) Do not give then rites! They are here on a work visa (rite now not even
that) not US citizens!!!  But then again I am not entirely in favor of
automatically granting anyone citizen ship. Not even third generation
American White Europeans. But again. that is just me.

If I have offended everyone I know it is a good plan ;)

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:56 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The Tucson Unified School District is teaching La Raza classes and they
> teach this is AZLAN and this part of the US was stolen from Mexico.  If you
> do not believe me Google both.
>
> I saw this type of festering mess in Cochise County in 1981 and 1982 when a
> group of radicals moved into Miracle Valley.  The Sheriff did little and the
> problem escalated.   The group detonated a bomb by accident while on the way
> to blow up a substation.  By that time it was too late.  The Sheriff could
> not get things under control and about 6 months later it ended with a
> shootout.  The group then moved back to Chicago.
>
> This is exactly what is going on here.  The government has led the illegal
> to believe they will be getting amnesty and that they have rights.  We have
> gone as far as to tell them it is our fault they must work under the table
> or steal someone's ID to work.  We tell them it our fault that we lure them
> with jobs and a non existent border.
>
> Now we have a problem.  We have defiant people who are blaming us for their
> illegal activity.  They are saying they would not have to break the law if
> we would just give them a social security number.  They say "We are here so
> why make them go home".  The Mexican TV has been telling them the economy
> would crash if it were not for them.
>
> If we do not take care of this problem soon we will have a race war.  Just
> wait until September 3.
>
> By the way Mexico prints pamphlets on how to get to the US and gives them
> to their people.  Why?  Because Mexico makes nothing of value.  Mexico's
> economy is dependent on the money the illegal sent back to Mexico.  The
> largest part of their economy comes from tourism and then the remittance
> sent by the illegal.
>
> In a nutshell we subsidize (we are their economy) Mexico by giving section
> 8 housing and food stamps to the illegals and then they send some of the
> money they make illegally back to Mexico.
>
> The Mexican president has the audacity to say "Where there is a Mexican the
> is Mexico".  The prior Mexican President threatened to sue a rancher in
> Douglas, AZ who had a ranch on the border and was rounding up Illegals that
> were trespassing on his land.   That same rancher was sued by those illegals
> for violating their civil rights and the illegals won.  So much for being
> American.  The liberal courts sided with those destroying his land.
>
> Do I sound a little irritated? I am.  I grew up on the border and have
> watched this problem for years.  I watched the first amnesty and know first
> hand want a failure it is.
>
> I've been in the trenches and I have seen the truth.
>
> It is time to solve this problem by exporting all the illegals and their
> children back to Mexico.
>
> Now this might seem a little radical and maybe it is.  I think we should
> withdraw our troops from Afghanistan and Iraq and put them on our Southern
> boarder and give Mexico 30 days to clean up their mess and begin creating an
> economy for those being repatriated.  If they miss the 30 day deadline then
> we use force to flush out the drug cartels, try them, and take the
> appropriate action. Also we need to investigate the wealthy ruling class as
> well.  Then take over the banking system and start building a government and
> industry that will be self deficient.  And maybe we should put some pavement
> on some of those dirt roads.
>
> ------------------------
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Mon, 5/17/10, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 6:12 PM
>
>
>   and at least half of the people at the Sharpton rally were
> professional protesters and organizers who certainly were not from here.
>  They told me that Arizona is really part of Mexico and I am standing on
> their land.  I kid you not, they not only believe this, but they actually
> preach this philosophy.  Regarding 10 more states, yes they will try to stop
> similar legislation and try to turn the entire country into California.  Do
> you want your state to be broke and telling the federal government you will
> have riots if you don't get a loan?  this stuff is serious business.  If we
> have a bad situation here you can be sure that your property value will
> plummet.
>
>   -jmz
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:03 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> And they reported there were 4000 people there.  I was there and I think
>> it was 500 - 1000 people in protest of HB1070 the night Al Sharpton came to
>> Phoenix.  If we truly get 10,000 people on the 5th that will be history.
>> History is being made in your backyard.  We are one of the most conservative
>> states in the US and we have taken a stand.  There will be 10 or more states
>> by this time next year.
>>
>> Bring your camcorder and record history.  Put your video onto YouTube.com.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------
>> Keith Smith
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 5/17/10, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=jjzeidner@gmail.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=jjzeidner@gmail.com>
>> >
>>
>> Subject: Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts?
>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us<http://mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>> >
>> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 5:39 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  I would urge EVERYONE, even if you're in the outer realms of Arizona
>> (probably means even more to you then) to come to this.  I spoke to some
>> organizers and they are busing in people from other states.  The whole
>> country is coming to this thing.  When is the last time you've even seen
>> your state capitol????  I was down there the other day when Al Sharpton
>> payed us a visit, there were people waving a USSR flag.
>>
>>   -jmz
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:32 PM, <joe at actionline.com<http://mc/compose?to=joe@actionline.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> This is the best topic (the content, not the subject line) that I have
>>> ever seen on PLUG ... even if it is "Off Topic."
>>>
>>> http://www.phoenixrally.com/ is the best thing I've seen happen in the
>>> nine years I've lived in Arizona.  I hope everyone on this list will
>>> forward this web address to everybody they know and urge everyone to sign
>>> this petition.
>>>
>>> http://www.numbersusa.com/petition?ID=15
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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