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Sun Mar 29 18:49:28 MST 2009
because you did, or because they have the same router.
If it is just because you did, then your router would be everyone's problem,
that's why they wouldn't want you on their channel.
In either case, you can still join the pulgaz channel and chat with us.
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From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Sean
Parsons
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:51 AM
To: 'Main PLUG discussion list'
Subject: RE: IRC Channel Access
They say there is some DCC exploit my router is susceptible to, but can't be
specific, so they run some test on my connection and then kick/ban me from
channels. There is nothing wrong with my Linksys WRT54G router, except some
script kiddies on their network flood channels and I will apparently loose
connection and be dropped. So instead of educating people or patching their
servers, they kick//ban people, and when you ask questions the play with
their bots and pelt you with useless links... 6 on 1 is a bit overwhelming.
I tried 3 clients, same thing. Whatever they have built tests connections.
They can't explain why this is an issue to them if my connection gets
dropped, it's really my problem... They suggested changing from port 6667 to
8001 and after a great deal of confusion about "how " to do it in the
various clients, I was still kicked/banned from certain channels. So I give
up with these guys and their power trip. I've done nothing but
read/learn/contribute so I'm not a threat, but they feel this is the way to
handle things.
The DCC problem has been an issue for years, but to suddenly target users in
chat rooms designed to educate, is ridiculous and irresponsible behavior. So
I'd rather not use freenode, unless I have no other choice. BTW I am on a
fixed IP so it wouldn't take much for then to ban me from every channel..
Sean Parsons
From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Bob
Elzer
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:42 AM
To: 'Main PLUG discussion list'
Subject: RE: IRC Channel Access
It's kind of like a web page, it's only on the one server.
But unless you have a static IP, I'm not sure how they could ban you.
You could try loggin on with a different name, and even a different client.
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From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Sean
Parsons
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:22 AM
To: 'Main PLUG discussion list'
Subject: IRC Channel Access
Is freenode the only access to PLUG-AZ? I seem to have been kicked out of a
channel because my "router" is buggy, some exploit they say I am susceptible
to and there for are banned from the #Ubuntu channel entirely. The ops think
its funny to gang up and pelt you with conflicting answers and when you call
them on their behavior you get lectured on net etiquette, kettle?
Needless to say I am too old for kid games, is there another server that has
access to the channel?
Sean Parsons
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D135103317-13112009><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>OK think of freenode like a radio, freenode =
would be the=20
band like AM or FM, and the channels would be the radio=20
stations.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D135103317-13112009><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D135103317-13112009><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Just because you were listening to KCBS (ubuntu =
channel) and they did something you didn't like, you wouldn't say=20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D135103317-13112009><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I'm done with the FM (Freenode) band. You=20
would just change the channel to KABC (plugaz).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=3D135103317-13112009></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D135103317-13112009><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>And like Radio the DJ's are the channel =
operators. So=20
mutt and jeff the morning idiots that punk'd you, have nothing to =
do with=20
Cousin Brucie the evening DJ.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D135103317-13112009><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D135103317-13112009><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>As for your problem your client (Car =
Radio) works=20
fine, but your Router (Car), will shut down if the DJ's send the EBS =
Test. And=20
they keep sending it to your car, causing it to =
die. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D135103317-13112009><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>From what I read, I can't determine if other =
users get=20
bumped off just because you did, or because they have the same=20
router.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D135103317-13112009><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>If it is just because you did, then your router =
would be=20
everyone's problem, that's why they wouldn't want you on their=20
channel.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D135103317-13112009><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>In either case, you can still join the pulgaz =
channel and=20
chat with us.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Sean=20
Parsons<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 13, 2009 9:51 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
'Main=20
PLUG discussion list'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: IRC Channel=20
Access<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">They say there is =
some DCC=20
exploit my router is susceptible to, but can’t be specific, so =
they run some=20
test on my connection and then kick/ban me from channels. There is =
nothing wrong=20
with my Linksys WRT54G router, except some script kiddies on their =
network flood=20
channels and I will apparently loose connection and be dropped. So =
instead of=20
educating people or patching their servers, they kick//ban people, and =
when you=20
ask questions the play with their bots and pelt you with useless =
links….. 6 on 1=20
is a bit overwhelming.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
#1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">I tried 3 clients, =
same thing.=20
Whatever they have built tests connections. They can’t explain why =
this is an=20
issue to them if my connection gets dropped, it’s really my =
problem….. They=20
suggested changing from port 6667 to 8001 and after a great deal of =
confusion=20
about “how “ to do it in the various clients, I was still =
kicked/banned from=20
certain channels. So I give up with these guys and their power trip. =
I’ve done=20
nothing but read/learn/contribute so I’m not a threat, but they =
feel this is the=20
way to handle things.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
#1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">The DCC problem has =
been an=20
issue for years, but to suddenly target users in chat rooms designed to =
educate,=20
is ridiculous and irresponsible behavior. So I’d rather not use =
freenode, unless=20
I have no other choice. BTW I am on a fixed IP so it wouldn’t take =
much for then=20
to ban me from every channel….<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
#1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 24pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: =
AmarilloUSAF">Sean=20
Parsons<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us=20
[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Bob=20
Elzer<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 13, 2009 9:42 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
'Main PLUG=20
discussion list'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: IRC Channel=20
Access<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
'Arial','sans-serif'">It's=20
kind of like a web page, it's only on the one server.</SPAN><SPAN=20
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Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
'Arial','sans-serif'">But=20
unless you have a static IP, I'm not sure how they could ban =
you.</SPAN><SPAN=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
'Arial','sans-serif'">You=20
could try loggin on with a different name, and even a different=20
client.</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
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'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">=20
plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us=20
[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Sean=20
Parsons<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 13, 2009 8:22 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
'Main=20
PLUG discussion list'<BR><B>Subject:</B> IRC Channel Access</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Is freenode the only access to PLUG-AZ? I seem to =
have been=20
kicked out of a channel because my “router” is buggy, some =
exploit they say I am=20
susceptible to and there for are banned from the #Ubuntu channel =
entirely. The=20
ops think its funny to gang up and pelt you with conflicting answers and =
when=20
you call them on their behavior you get lectured on net etiquette, =
kettle?=20
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Needless to say I am too old for kid games, is =
there another=20
server that has access to the channel?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 24pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
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Parsons<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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