OT: Bailout Bill

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> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:38:00 -0700
> From: jjzeidner at gmail.com
> To: plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: OT: Bailout Bill
> 
>  Dan,
> 
>    Running Linux is about self-sufficiency and maintaining choices.
> 
>    Whats going on here in our broken political system is eliminating
> our choices.  "Buy this or else."  It goes against everything we 'hold
> to be self-evident' in the Free Software world.  Free Software people
> should be united against this bill.
> 
>  -jmz
> 
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Dan Lund
> <situationalawareness at gmail.com> wrote:
> > While OT is a great thing, it has to be somewhat in relation to the
> > main conversation we have.
> > Politics is not a good thing for us to talk about since we are a large
> > variety of people.
> > Linux or computer related here.
> > I'm sorry, but I am starting to become a little disheartened by it,
> > since if we talk about this then there's always someone pulling this
> > card out at the most inopportune time to shut you up to prove they are
> > right.  I figure it's best to not even start.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan Lund
> >
> > To exercise power costs effort and demands courage. That is why so
> > many fail to assert rights to which they are perfectly entitled -
> > because a right is a kind of power but they are too lazy or too
> > cowardly to exercise it.  The virtues which cloak these faults are
> > called patience and forbearance.
> > -Friedrich Nietzsche
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>  Hey all,
> >>
> >>   sorry for the OT, but I think the gravity of this situation offsets
> >> the negatives of making this post here.
> >>
> >>   In case you are not aware, congress is currently considering
> >> emergency legislation for a supposed 'bailout' of 700 billion dollar
> >> credit line to the US Treasury in order to provide 'liquidity' to
> >> credit markets in the US and worldwide.  The situation is somewhat
> >> complex, but what I want to explain here is how it relates to things
> >> you may see every day as an Arizonan.  You have no doubt seen more
> >> than one totally ridiculous and imprudent mortgage loan dispensed in
> >> the area over the past few years.  You might have assumed that these
> >> risky loans would be the problem of either the bank or the borrower.
> >> The alarming aspect to these recent developments are that we as
> >> Americans have learned that it is in fact *all of us* that are going
> >> to pay for these bad loans.  Does that sound fair to you?  And it gets
> >> better: when we fork up the 700 billion, houses will not even become
> >> any more affordable.  If you are struggling you will continue to
> >> struggle despite this unprecedented transfer of wealth to the
> >> treasurer.  With 700 billion dollars we could build houses for the
> >> entire country.  This bill amounts to nothing less than robbery.
> >>
> >>   I truly hope that you consider calling your congressmen and
> >> congresswomen and voice your opinion to this bill.  Your real voice
> >> makes a difference.
> >>
> >>   thanks all, and I really hope you call your representatives.  We as
> >> a country have to stop complaining and get involved.  Im not really an
> >> 'activist', Im just a regular American who knows enough about this
> >> situation to know how much of a tragedy it is.
> >>
> >>  you can get the phone numbers here by typing in your ZIP code:
> >> http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/
> >>
> >>  thanks, jmz
> >>
> >> --
> >> "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World
> >> War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." --Albert Einstein
> >>
> >>  - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/
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> "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World
> War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." --Albert Einstein
> 
>  - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/
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