FWIW, the plug discuss list archive on gmane.org (gmane.org.user-groups.linux.phoenix) now goes back to 2004 or so (the earliest posts are incomplete). Thanks to Lars for this great service. It's a nice way to keep up with the list without messing with email. BTW, does anyone have a news reader they particularly like (other than TBird)? -- -Eric 'shubes'