OT: remember

[Joshua Zeidner]

  Well if Charles has photographic proof of a plane wreckage, that is on par
with the Zapruder film because there are no such pics in the public domain
to my knowledge.  He is not making a minor claim.

  I tend to believe him as well, just by the character of his writings.  But
on the other hand, I'm not sure that he recognizes the gravity of his
claim.  It is true that video evidence shot from nearby hotels was
confiscated.

 -jmz

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Josh Coffman <josh at computeristsolutions.com
> wrote:

> Charles is right.  Pics or no (and I do believe him) people have mostly
> made up their minds and won't believe anything proving the contrary anyway.
>
> Indeed I did not expect such a long thread.  I was only expressing the
> memory this date invokes with me in a way I thought was fair but firm.
>
> The science of the whole thing exists and is clear.  By now, there probably
> isn't anyone left who will be swayed one way or the other by witness, fact,
> and science.  In my opinion, it comes down to a question of faith if one is
> unwilling to believe fact.
>
> Do you believe that evil people wanted to and did attack and kill thousands
> of Americans?  Or do you believe that the Bush administration which took
> office in the end of January of 01 planned, prepped, and executed the
> perfect demolition of two (assuming the others were accidental) very large
> and fortified buildings?  ..and that this organized and necessarily broad
> scoped conspiracy has been successfully kept secret by the same federal gov
> that can't get healthcare, social security, or bridge construction right?
>
> I know what I believe and why, and I respect all of you in this group as
> well as your right to whatever opinion you choose.  I think it's worthwhile
> to question and examine life, including your own opinions.
>
> "Two men can keep a secret if one of them is dead" - Mark Twain
>
> -j
>
> /over & out of this thread
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>   Lets put the conspiracy theories to rest.
>>
>>   Lets see the pics.
>>
>>   -jmz
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Charles Jones <
>> charles.jones at ciscolearning.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Craig White wrote:
>>> > there are documented moments when such acts (killing innocent American
>>> > civilians on American soil) were actually contemplated by members of
>>> our
>>> > own government...
>>> >
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
>>> >
>>> The Northwoods "plan", while indeed ludicrous, was purely deception. It
>>> involved NO KILLING WHATSOEVER.  This elaborate play is a far cry from
>>> outright killing thousands of people, destroying buildings, and somehow
>>> involving and coordinating thousands of others in a plot and
>>> successfully keeping it secret.
>>>
>>> Was this plan rediculous? Yes. Did it involve killing innocent people,
>>> or even enemies? No.  Could 9-11 be just a more "hardcore" version of
>>> this plan? Anything is possible, but I have a hard time believing that
>>> the govt would be capable of pulling off such an complex plan, involving
>>> so many people.
>>>
>>> -Charles
>>>
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>> IV will be fought with sticks and stones." --Albert Einstein
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