OT: Survelliance in America

[Mike Schwartz]

> "let it happen" crowd [...]

as someone pointed out a long time ago
(I think it was during  - or even before - 2002),
if you do a search on
    LIHOP
you get a ton of hits - so much stuff
you could never read half of it . . .
Just "F Y I"
--
Mike Schwartz
Glendale AZ
schwartz at acm.org

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Vaughn Treude <vltreude at deru.com> wrote:
>
> OK, this has gone on so long, I can't resist putting in my two cents:
> The so-called 9/11 Truth Movement has been infiltrated by the CIA, which
> plants ridiculous ideas (controlled demolition of the towers, missiles
> at the Pentagon) to discredit anyone who'd ask the most pertinent
> question: did "they" know about the coming attack beforehand and allow
> it to happen anyway, for their dark political purposes? If not, at the
> very least, there's the matter of criminal incompetence.
> Anyway, I was recent browsing the web for 9/11 conspiracy theories, and
> discovered that the "controlled demolition" crowd is now accusing the
> "let it happen" crowd of spreading disinformation. Brilliant!
> Vaughn
>
> Dan Lund wrote:
> > It's my guess that ultimately no one wants to ever admit that a lot of
> > organizations within the government had their eyes closed at the same
> > time, causing a perfect storm.  Again, a guess since I'm not even
> > going to start to say I know what happened since I wasn't a part of
> > any of it.
> > The way our president and the staff following him have acted
> > self-centered since the beginning of the 8 year regime has only added
> > to people's issues.  I think we'll know the answers to whatever has
> > happened (good, bad, mild, or outrageously borderline with everyones
> > thoughts) when the Freedom of Information timeline has hit and all is
> > open to the public.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan Lund
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Mike Garfias <mike at garfias.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Just like the people that insist that jetfuel burning couldnt have
> >> brought down the WTC towers as it burns at a lower temp than steel
> >> melts?  I've had engineers tell me this - I guess they're short on the
> >> real world experience: I've bent 1" forged steel bars with nothing
> >> more than a cresent wrench (and a torch to bring the steel to 900 or
> >> so degrees).
> >>
> >> People can't look at metallurgical data and see that steel loses 1/2
> >> its strength by 900 degrees.
> >>
> >> Oh, and assuming the government was behind the 9/11 attacks is saying
> >> the same government that brought you the DMV was capable of of
> >> planning and executing such a conspiracy with no one talking about it.
> >>
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