OT: Survelliance in America

[mike havens]

My weekend? IT WAS TERRIBLE! The government was watching me every
minute. What did I do? I played video games! Well.... I played one.
One from '84 called Elite. IT is a first person shoot-em-up game where
you are a space trader.....  you can be a pirate even. It is a very
cool game. If any of you remember it and want it let me know.... I'll
send it to you .

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Vaughn Treude <vltreude at deru.com> wrote:
> OK, this has gone on so long, I can't resist putting in my two cents:
> The so-called 9/11 Truth Movement has been infiltrated by the CIA, which
> plants ridiculous ideas (controlled demolition of the towers, missiles
> at the Pentagon) to discredit anyone who'd ask the most pertinent
> question: did "they" know about the coming attack beforehand and allow
> it to happen anyway, for their dark political purposes? If not, at the
> very least, there's the matter of criminal incompetence.
> Anyway, I was recent browsing the web for 9/11 conspiracy theories, and
> discovered that the "controlled demolition" crowd is now accusing the
> "let it happen" crowd of spreading disinformation. Brilliant!
> Vaughn
>
> Dan Lund wrote:
>> It's my guess that ultimately no one wants to ever admit that a lot of
>> organizations within the government had their eyes closed at the same
>> time, causing a perfect storm.  Again, a guess since I'm not even
>> going to start to say I know what happened since I wasn't a part of
>> any of it.
>> The way our president and the staff following him have acted
>> self-centered since the beginning of the 8 year regime has only added
>> to people's issues.  I think we'll know the answers to whatever has
>> happened (good, bad, mild, or outrageously borderline with everyones
>> thoughts) when the Freedom of Information timeline has hit and all is
>> open to the public.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dan Lund
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Mike Garfias <mike at garfias.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Just like the people that insist that jetfuel burning couldnt have
>>> brought down the WTC towers as it burns at a lower temp than steel
>>> melts?  I've had engineers tell me this - I guess they're short on the
>>> real world experience: I've bent 1" forged steel bars with nothing
>>> more than a cresent wrench (and a torch to bring the steel to 900 or
>>> so degrees).
>>>
>>> People can't look at metallurgical data and see that steel loses 1/2
>>> its strength by 900 degrees.
>>>
>>> Oh, and assuming the government was behind the 9/11 attacks is saying
>>> the same government that brought you the DMV was capable of of
>>> planning and executing such a conspiracy with no one talking about it.
>>>
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