Windows Gaming WAS Is it yet possible to _really_ switch from Windows?

Erich Newell erich.newell at gmail.com
Tue Jan 8 17:58:23 MST 2008


Hmm. It would be a total hack...but if they allow mounting of the
drives via the network, you could run VMWare with windoze...mount the
ISO via DaemonTools and share it out?

I don't have games with these requirements any longer. Actually, the
newest game I play is UrbanTerror 4.1, which is based on Quake3
(ioQuake)...I'd like to try the newer games, but not enough to guinea
pig their feasibility under reenix.

What Steam-based games work and what horsepower is needed? What's the
performance hit?


On Jan 8, 2008 5:23 PM, Patrick C <patrick.pxc.c at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've actually done a LAN party from Linux, myself, so I could talk to you
> about that. As for D-Tools vs `mount -t iso9660 -o loop`, the
> copy-protection features used by many modern games are unsupported
> (nonexistent) on Linux. Cedega provides these services, but does not support
> mounting ISO images. (I've tried editing the configuration files by hand,
> too.)
>
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2008 3:53 PM, Erich Newell <erich.newell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Awesome to hear. I'd like to pick his brain on how he has some of the
> > games configured...as far as the "cons": Wine can be fooled into
> > mounting ISOs as CDROM drives by first mounting them as loop devices
> > under fstab and then adding them using winecfg.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Who needs daemon tools?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 8, 2008 3:41 PM, Patrick C <patrick.pxc.c at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > I just thought I'd throw this out there, since it's related...
> > >
> > > I just threw a LAN party on the 31st with about 18 people. One of those
> > > people ran Linux (Ubuntu 7.10) for the reason that he couldn't install
> > > Windows on his computer. He said that his Windows XP license is an
> upgrade
> > > from a Windows 98 license which is also an upgrade license, and nothing
> > > older than that recognizes his CD-ROM drive. He already had most of the
> > > games we were going to play (some recent, some older: Counter-Strike:
> > > Source, Warcraft III, Starcraft, Age of Empires III) working with Wine.
> For
> > > the rest (or ones that were simply buggy) I threw my copy of Cedega on
> there
> > > and pointed them to his Wine directories for the shortcuts, and the
> games
> > > ran and performed fairly well.
> > >
> > > The cons were not really show-stoppers. A minor performance loss and a
> > > slightly more complicated installation process. The things he missed out
> on
> > > were tools like Daemon Tools and Daemonscript (which I combined so
> nobody
> > > would have to pass around CDs)--not the games themselves. That said,
> real
> > > Linux games hardly exist outside of Id Software's stuff, and the
> selection
> > > of Windows games guaranteed to work with Cedega/Wine is somewhat small,
> > > including only the biggest titles.
> > >
> > > On Dec 27, 2007 9:43 PM, JT Moree <moreejt at pcxperience.com > wrote:
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> > > > Judd Pickell wrote:
> > > > > Sorry, but this argument falls on its face when you consider the
> cost
> > > > > of the console and quality of the game. When a console costs as much
> > > > > as the upgrades to a PC, I hardly call that being better. Especially
> > > > > since the cost of the games is almost the same.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You seem to miss my point entirely.  I disagree with your arguments
> but
> > > > we're quite off topic I think.
> > > >
> > > > Let me recap:
> > > >
> > > > Chris made a point about gaming on windows being better than other PC
> > > > platforms.  I did NOT disagree with this statement--in fact I agreed
> > > > with it.  But I went a step further and made a point that gaming on
> > > > Windows stinks compared to consoles.
> > > >
> > > > I then gave reasons why PC gaming (Windows, LInux, MAc) is never as
> > > > simple and easy as a console.  I am the one who gets calls from
> friends
> > > > and family to help with their stupid PC problems.  I"ll be happy to
> > > > refer them to you if you disagree with my assessment. ;)
> > > >
> > > > I ended by saying people who want to play games should buy consoles
> (so
> > > > that they dont' call ME when they have problems.)
> > > >
> > > > You seemed to reply with something along the lines of: consoles are
> > > > lower quality and more expensive to upgrade than PCs.  Again, I
> disagree
> > > > with this but it's OK to disagree with each other.
> > > >
> > > > Then you proceeded to explain why LInux has few commercial games.  Yes
> I
> > > > agree with all of that and it only reinforces my point.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think there's anything constructive to say here.  I suppose
> you
> > > > can reply if I've misunderstood your response but is this discussion
> > > > serving any purpose?  I'm regretting that I replied to the OP.
> > > >
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