Windows Gaming WAS Is it yet possible to _really_ switch from Windows?

Patrick C patrick.pxc.c at gmail.com
Tue Jan 8 17:23:15 MST 2008


I've actually done a LAN party from Linux, myself, so I could talk to you
about that. As for D-Tools vs `mount -t iso9660 -o loop`, the
copy-protection features used by many modern games are unsupported
(nonexistent) on Linux. Cedega provides these services, but does not support
mounting ISO images. (I've tried editing the configuration files by hand,
too.)

On Jan 8, 2008 3:53 PM, Erich Newell <erich.newell at gmail.com> wrote:

> Awesome to hear. I'd like to pick his brain on how he has some of the
> games configured...as far as the "cons": Wine can be fooled into
> mounting ISOs as CDROM drives by first mounting them as loop devices
> under fstab and then adding them using winecfg.
>
> :)
>
> Who needs daemon tools?
>
> On Jan 8, 2008 3:41 PM, Patrick C <patrick.pxc.c at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just thought I'd throw this out there, since it's related...
> >
> > I just threw a LAN party on the 31st with about 18 people. One of those
> > people ran Linux (Ubuntu 7.10) for the reason that he couldn't install
> > Windows on his computer. He said that his Windows XP license is an
> upgrade
> > from a Windows 98 license which is also an upgrade license, and nothing
> > older than that recognizes his CD-ROM drive. He already had most of the
> > games we were going to play (some recent, some older: Counter-Strike:
> > Source, Warcraft III, Starcraft, Age of Empires III) working with Wine.
> For
> > the rest (or ones that were simply buggy) I threw my copy of Cedega on
> there
> > and pointed them to his Wine directories for the shortcuts, and the
> games
> > ran and performed fairly well.
> >
> > The cons were not really show-stoppers. A minor performance loss and a
> > slightly more complicated installation process. The things he missed out
> on
> > were tools like Daemon Tools and Daemonscript (which I combined so
> nobody
> > would have to pass around CDs)--not the games themselves. That said,
> real
> > Linux games hardly exist outside of Id Software's stuff, and the
> selection
> > of Windows games guaranteed to work with Cedega/Wine is somewhat small,
> > including only the biggest titles.
> >
> > On Dec 27, 2007 9:43 PM, JT Moree <moreejt at pcxperience.com> wrote:
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> > > Judd Pickell wrote:
> > > > Sorry, but this argument falls on its face when you consider the
> cost
> > > > of the console and quality of the game. When a console costs as much
> > > > as the upgrades to a PC, I hardly call that being better. Especially
> > > > since the cost of the games is almost the same.
> > >
> > >
> > > You seem to miss my point entirely.  I disagree with your arguments
> but
> > > we're quite off topic I think.
> > >
> > > Let me recap:
> > >
> > > Chris made a point about gaming on windows being better than other PC
> > > platforms.  I did NOT disagree with this statement--in fact I agreed
> > > with it.  But I went a step further and made a point that gaming on
> > > Windows stinks compared to consoles.
> > >
> > > I then gave reasons why PC gaming (Windows, LInux, MAc) is never as
> > > simple and easy as a console.  I am the one who gets calls from
> friends
> > > and family to help with their stupid PC problems.  I"ll be happy to
> > > refer them to you if you disagree with my assessment. ;)
> > >
> > > I ended by saying people who want to play games should buy consoles
> (so
> > > that they dont' call ME when they have problems.)
> > >
> > > You seemed to reply with something along the lines of: consoles are
> > > lower quality and more expensive to upgrade than PCs.  Again, I
> disagree
> > > with this but it's OK to disagree with each other.
> > >
> > > Then you proceeded to explain why LInux has few commercial games.  Yes
> I
> > > agree with all of that and it only reinforces my point.
> > >
> > > I don't think there's anything constructive to say here.  I suppose
> you
> > > can reply if I've misunderstood your response but is this discussion
> > > serving any purpose?  I'm regretting that I replied to the OP.
> > >
> > > - --
> > > JT Morée
> > > PC Xperience, Inc.
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