Hardware (was Re: ubuntuu/xubuntuu)

Michael Havens bmike101 at cox.net
Fri Feb 16 11:05:44 MST 2007


processor AMD k62

top - 18:03:30 up  1:00,  3 users,  load average: 0.07, 0.41, 0.55
Tasks: 100 total,   1 running,  99 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s): 23.9% us,  7.5% sy,  0.0% ni, 63.3% id,  0.6% wa,  4.4% hi,  0.3% si
Mem:    385264k total,   292352k used,    92912k free,    14428k buffers
Swap:  1025000k total,        0k used,  1025000k free,   159768k cached


bmike1 at 2[~]$ lsusb
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:08b0 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam 3000 Pro [pwc]
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 045e:003c Microsoft Corp. SideWinder Joystick
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp.
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0457:0151 Silicon Integrated Systems Corp. Super Flash 
1GB Flash Drive
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e3:0606 Genesys Logic, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
bmike1 at 2[~]$    lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598 [Apollo MVP3] (rev 
04)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo 
MVP3/Pro133x AGP]
0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/A/B PCI-to-ISA 
[Apollo VP] (rev 47)
0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 02)
0000:00:07.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B ACPI (rev 10)
0000:00:08.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 61)
0000:00:08.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 61)
0000:00:08.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 63)
0000:00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
0000:00:0a.0 Serial controller: 3Com Corp, Modem Division 56K FaxModem Model 
5610 (rev 01)
0000:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 
100] (rev 05)
0000:00:0c.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D / AIC-7881U
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV10 [GeForce 256 
SDR] (rev 10)
bmike1 at 2[~]$  



On Friday 16 February 2007 10:31 am, Erich Newell wrote:
> Michael,
>
> What hardware do you plan on running ubuntu/xubuntu on? xubuntu is very
> lightweight b/c of xfce. I for one, run ubuntu on all of my workstations
> and am quite happy with it. If you can be more specific regarding your
> expectations/requirements I may be able to help shed light on the subject.
>
> - Erich
>
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> >    1. ubuntuu/xubuntuu (Michael Havens)
> >    2. Re: gpg experts? (Carlos Macedo Gomes)
> >    3. Re: gpg experts? (Eric "Shubes")
> >    4. Re: ubuntuu/xubuntuu (Josh Coffman)
> >    5. Samba and Passwords (Nathan Aubrey)
> >    6. Re: Samba and Passwords (Craig White)
> >    7. Re: ubuntuu/xubuntuu (JT Moree)
> >    8. Re: Samba and Passwords (Nathan Aubrey)
> >    9. Re: Mesa Regal InstallFest (Eric "Shubes")
> >   10. Re: Mesa Regal InstallFest (Michael Havens)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:33:20 -0700
> > From: Michael Havens <bmike101 at cox.net>
> > Subject: ubuntuu/xubuntuu
> > To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Message-ID: <200702151333.22104.bmike101 at cox.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I'm starting a discussion concerning installing something
> > other than Mepis and before I do so I want to get your opinions about
> > this matter. My fear is that ubuntu/xubuntu will use to much in the way
> > of resources whereas what what I am going to installhas been recommended.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:56:28 -0700
> > From: "Carlos Macedo Gomes" <powerofprimes at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: gpg experts?
> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
> >         <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Message-ID:
> >         <86c2c4610702151256g389fb04bxb8abad118cb20b15 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On 2/15/07, Darrin Chandler <dwchandler at stilyagin.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:44:48AM -0700, Alan Dayley wrote:
> > > > A key signing party, or mini-party would be good to do.  Maybe I'll
> > > > start doing it 20 minutes before the Devel Meetings, just to do my
> >
> > part.
> >
> > > >  That means I'll have to setup for the meeting earlier.  It's a
> > > > challenge at times to get setup for the 7:00PM start time but that is
> >
> > my
> >
> > > > own fault!  ;^)
> > >
> > > Or after the meeting when people are milling around talking? Or only
> > > after "short" meetings where the presentation doesn't go too long...
> >
> > Hi Darrin and Alan,
> >
> > Long time lurker, first time poster.  I'm interested in helping out w/ a
> > pgp
> > key signing party.  I joined the list a few weeks back and haven't had a
> > chance to attended any of the meetings but I've been playing w/ pgp/gpg
> > since back in the early cypherpunk days (early 90s).
> > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=carlos+macedo+gomes&op=index
> >
> > Let me know how I can help out.
> >
> > thanks,
> > C.G.
> >
> > --
> > powerofprimes at gmail.com
> > Carlos Macedo Gomes
> > _sic itur ad astra_
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:04:42 -0700
> > From: "Eric \"Shubes\"" <plug at shubes.net>
> > Subject: Re: gpg experts?
> > To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Message-ID: <45D4CAEA.2070809 at shubes.net>
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> >
> > Carlos Macedo Gomes wrote:
> > > On 2/15/07, *Darrin Chandler* <dwchandler at stilyagin.com
> > > <mailto:dwchandler at stilyagin.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:44:48AM -0700, Alan Dayley wrote:
> > >     > A key signing party, or mini-party would be good to do.  Maybe
> >
> > I'll
> >
> > >     > start doing it 20 minutes before the Devel Meetings, just to do
> > >     > my
> > >
> > >     part.
> > >
> > >     >  That means I'll have to setup for the meeting earlier.  It's a
> > >     > challenge at times to get setup for the 7:00PM start time but
> > >     > that
> > >
> > >     is my
> > >
> > >     > own fault!  ;^)
> > >
> > >     Or after the meeting when people are milling around talking? Or
> > > only after "short" meetings where the presentation doesn't go too
> > > long...
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Darrin and Alan,
> > >
> > > Long time lurker, first time poster.  I'm interested in helping out w/
> > > a pgp key signing party.  I joined the list a few weeks back and
> > > haven't had a chance to attended any of the meetings but I've been
> > > playing w/ pgp/gpg since back in the early cypherpunk days (early 90s).
> > > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=carlos+macedo+gomes&op=index
> > > <http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=carlos+macedo+gomes&op=inde
> > >x
> > >
> > >
> > > Let me know how I can help out.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > C.G.
> > >
> > > --
> >
> > I know it's been done before, but I'd like to see a presentation that
> > leaves
> > me with an understanding of how gpg works, and a demonstration of how to
> > actually use it. :)
> >
> > --
> > -Eric 'shubes'
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:15:27 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Josh Coffman <josh_coffman at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: ubuntuu/xubuntuu
> > To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Message-ID: <358890.21683.qm at web43103.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > I have Ubuntu on the laptop for now.
> > After first login and with firefox open, it was using 176 meg of ram..
> > for a pretty standard gnome ubuntu install.
> > Oh, and with extra codecs and the nvidia driver.
> >
> > -j
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Michael Havens <bmike101 at cox.net>
> > To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:33:20 PM
> > Subject: ubuntuu/xubuntuu
> >
> > I'm starting a discussion concerning installing something
> > other than Mepis and before I do so I want to get your opinions about
> > this matter. My fear is that ubuntu/xubuntu will use to much in the way
> > of resources whereas what what I am going to installhas been recommended.
> >
> > What do you think?
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:14:05 -0700
> > From: Nathan Aubrey <nathan at paysonlinux.org>
> > Subject: Samba and Passwords
> > To: PLUG Discussion List <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
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> >
> > I want to enforce some good password policies, such as 30 changes, no
> > dictionary words, can't use the previous 2 passwords...
> >
> > Can this be done with samba and ldap?
> > I'm not seeing how to do this.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:20:32 -0700
> > From: Craig White <craig at tobyhouse.com>
> > Subject: Re: Samba and Passwords
> > To: nathan at paysonlinux.org,     Main PLUG discussion list
> >         <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
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> > Content-Type: text/plain
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> > On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 16:14 -0700, Nathan Aubrey wrote:
> > > I want to enforce some good password policies, such as 30 changes, no
> > > dictionary words, can't use the previous 2 passwords...
> > >
> > > Can this be done with samba and ldap?
> > > I'm not seeing how to do this.
> >
> > ----
> > newer versions of ldap have password policy features (OpenLDAP 2.3,
> > Fedora Directory Manager)
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:46:47 -0700
> > From: JT Moree <moreejt at pcxperience.com>
> > Subject: Re: ubuntuu/xubuntuu
> > To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
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> > Michael Havens wrote:
> > > I'm starting a discussion concerning installing something
> > > other than Mepis and before I do so I want to get your opinions about
> >
> > this
> >
> > > matter. My fear is that ubuntu/xubuntu will use to much in the way of
> > > resources whereas what what I am going to installhas been recommended.
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> >
> > Mepis is based on kubuntu.  It uses KDE.  It will be much more resource
> > intensive than xubuntu.  'bout the same as ubuntu.
> >
> > - --
> > JT Mor?e
> > PC Xperience, Inc.
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> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:54:27 -0700
> > From: Nathan Aubrey <nathan at paysonlinux.org>
> > Subject: Re: Samba and Passwords
> > To: PLUG Discussion List <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Message-ID: <200702151654.27221.nathan at paysonlinux.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On Thursday 15 February 2007, you wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 16:14 -0700, Nathan Aubrey wrote:
> > > > I want to enforce some good password policies, such as 30 changes, no
> > > > dictionary words, can't use the previous 2 passwords...
> > > >
> > > > Can this be done with samba and ldap?
> > > > I'm not seeing how to do this.
> > >
> > > ----
> > > newer versions of ldap have password policy features (OpenLDAP 2.3,
> > > Fedora Directory Manager)
> > >
> > > Craig
> >
> > I am already using cracklib, but it is not checking. I setup the
> > crackcheck
> > program, and that seems to do the trick. I can no longer use cherry as my
> > password!
> >
> > Now I have to work on previous similar passwords.
> > I made a script to force password changes every 30 days.
> >
> > nathan
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:15:40 -0700
> > From: "Eric \"Shubes\"" <plug at shubes.net>
> > Subject: Re: Mesa Regal InstallFest
> > To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Message-ID: <45D4F7AC.9010004 at shubes.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > I'm glad I didn't refer to this as a "mini-" installfest. I just talked
> > with
> > Yvonne and she informed me that 16 people have signed up. Wow!
> >
> > So far, I have myself, Dennis Kibbe, Patrick Callahan, Robert Callahan,
> > and
> > JT Moree slated to be installers/helpers. If anyone else can come, I'm
> > sure
> > that we'll have something that you can do to help. It should be fun.
> > Note, if you can't be there for the entire period, we'll be glad to have
> > you for whatever period you can attend.
> >
> > The Card Room at Mesa Regal has been reserved from 9:00-16:00. We're
> > expecting that most of the people will show up promptly at 9, so it'll
> > probably be a little crazy at first. I'm planning on getting there as
> > close
> > to 8:00 as I can to set things up. If others can be there any time
> > between 8
> > and 9, that should be fine.
> >
> > Mesa Regal is at 4700 E Main St (Apache Trail) in Mesa, about 1/3 mile
> > east
> > of Greenfield on the North side of the street:
> >
> > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=4700+e+main+st+mesa+az&ie=UTF8&z=
> >12&ll=33.415681,-111.729927&spn=0.19716,0.338173&om=1&iwloc=addr
> >
> >
> > If there is someone at the guard station, tell them you're helping with
> > the
> > Linux meeting in the Card Room. To get to the Card Room, simply drive
> > straight ahead. The street dead ends at the main building, 2nd stop sign.
> > Find a place to park. The Card Room is on the West end of the main
> > building,
> > with doors on the front (south) side.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for helping out in any way they can.
> >
> > --
> > -Eric 'shubes'
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:02:03 -0700
> > From: Michael Havens <bmike101 at cox.net>
> > Subject: Re: Mesa Regal InstallFest
> > To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Message-ID: <200702151902.06053.bmike101 at cox.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > I can come now! I am unemployed! Not really..... I start a new job on
> > Tuesday
> > wiring houses for phone/cable.
> >
> > This is on SAT?
> >
> > On Thursday 15 February 2007 5:15 pm, Eric "Shubes" wrote:
> > > I'm glad I didn't refer to this as a "mini-" installfest. I just talked
> > > with Yvonne and she informed me that 16 people have signed up. Wow!
> > >
> > > So far, I have myself, Dennis Kibbe, Patrick Callahan, Robert Callahan,
> >
> > and
> >
> > > JT Moree slated to be installers/helpers. If anyone else can come, I'm
> >
> > sure
> >
> > > that we'll have something that you can do to help. It should be fun.
> >
> > Note,
> >
> > > if you can't be there for the entire period, we'll be glad to have you
> >
> > for
> >
> > > whatever period you can attend.
> > >
> > > The Card Room at Mesa Regal has been reserved from 9:00-16:00. We're
> > > expecting that most of the people will show up promptly at 9, so it'll
> > > probably be a little crazy at first. I'm planning on getting there as
> >
> > close
> >
> > > to 8:00 as I can to set things up. If others can be there any time
> >
> > between
> >
> > > 8 and 9, that should be fine.
> > >
> > > Mesa Regal is at 4700 E Main St (Apache Trail) in Mesa, about 1/3 mile
> >
> > east
> >
> > > of Greenfield on the North side of the street:
> >
> > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=4700+e+main+st+mesa+az&ie=UTF8&z=
> >12
> >
> > >&ll=33.415681,-111.729927&spn=0.19716,0.338173&om=1&iwloc=addr
> > >
> > >
> > > If there is someone at the guard station, tell them you're helping with
> >
> > the
> >
> > > Linux meeting in the Card Room. To get to the Card Room, simply drive
> > > straight ahead. The street dead ends at the main building, 2nd stop
> >
> > sign.
> >
> > > Find a place to park. The Card Room is on the West end of the main
> > > building, with doors on the front (south) side.
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone for helping out in any way they can.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
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