Tired of Being Screwed By Cox (no pun intended)

[David Mandala]

I'm more then a bit pissed off about this. Why should I need my own mail
server? Possible since cox will only relay from within their network and
not from outside. So when I take my laptop outside of cox's network I
can't send mail now. That totally bites.

This is idiotic. 

Now if it turns out that cox also limits attachments then the shit shall
really hit the fan, not saying they do (I have not tried to send a
really big attachment YET) but if they do then they have no business
forcing me to use a broken mail server.

Cheers,

Davidm

On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 19:04, Adrian Mink wrote:
> Well, in most cases I would have to agree with you, but...
> 
> In the last 2 years my mail server has not been down once, except
> for maintenance. My mail is never delayed in a over worked queue,
> I can send whatever size attachments I darn well please, etc, etc. I would
> stack the reliability and uptime of my home mail server against any big ISP
> and end up not looking too bad. (Postfix rules.)
> 
> Now, this is not a fair comparison, as I don't have the load issues, or
> any of the other problems a large ISP has. My mail will not be as reliable
> because of this. (But it won't be much worse I admit.)
> 
> But as someone else said, it's time to quit whining. (Me, whine! Never!)
> I am only paying for residential service, if I want more I can go and
> pay for it. It was nice while it lasted though.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas Cameron" <thomas.cameron@camerontech.com>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Tired of Being Screwed By Cox (no pun intended)
> 
> 
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Adrian Mink" <adrian@minkland.com>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: Tired of Being Screwed By Cox (no pun intended)
> >
> >
> > > Yes, but the main issue in my mind is reliability. I trust my own local
> > mail
> > > server to be up when I need it more than
> > > I trust Cox's mail server.
> >
> > I mean no offense by this at all, but be realistic:  What if your mail
> > server smokes a power supply while you are at work/in the dentist's
> > chair/whatever...  You're screwed.  If the Cox SMTP server tanks, they
> have
> > a dedicated group to getting it back up, and I'd bet a donut (maybe two)
> > that they have a failover system that works reasonably well.
> >
> > > If I have to use a 3rd party to re-route my mail
> > > I am left having to rely on their uptime.
> >
> > I will be the first to admit that when big ISPs have outages, it is
> usually
> > a spectacular failure and leads to much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
> But
> > the fact is, they are typically few and far between, and recovered from
> > quickly.
> >
> > > Either
> > > way introduces more possibility of failure. Oh well, I can always pay
> for
> > > commercial service! (Yeah, right!)
> >
> > Bottom line is, if you want commercial capabilities, you will probably
> have
> > to pay for them.  Cox is selling *residential* broadband.  It's not
> > reasonable for them to have to cater to what is a typically commercial use
> > (SMTP server) for the money they are asking for residential services.
> >
> > Again, I am not bashing you - I do run my own mail servers at home and at
> my
> > company and I wouldn't have it any other way.  But I pay for commercial
> > grade service at both (RoadRunner Business Class at home and Time Warner
> T1
> > at my office).  If having to pay that extra money keeps some spam off the
> > 'Net, so be it.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
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