Mr.Project frustration

[Craig White]

On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 16:59, Derek Neighbors wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 15:45, Craig White wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-02-22 at 13:55, Alan Dayley wrote:
> > > I just spent some time entering project tasks and dependencies on my first use 
> > > of Mr. Project.  Looks pretty good and useful.  However, I now want to 
> > > produce a report and the File>Print menu selection is disabled.  Mr. Project 
> > > evidently does not have print capability!  So...
> > > 
> > > 1-I didn't see it but is there an update to Mr. Project that has print 
> > > capability?  (I am using what installed with Red Hat 8.0 so it is relatively 
> > > current and the web site says nothing about printing but I thought I'd ask.)
> > > 
> > > 2-How do I capture the screen to print from screen shots?  (yucky but can get 
> > > me by for now.)
> > > 
> > > 3-What project management tools do any of you recommend?  (I'll have to 
> > > migrate to something else.)
> > > 
> > -----
> > I'm disappointed that you chose to whine rather than check out the
> > project page...
> 
> Sounded to me like he just asked some questions.
> 
> > Since you didn't bother figuring out the URL for the project, I'll give
> > it to you...
> > <http://www.codefactory.se/press/mrproject-0.9>
> > 
> > Yes, there are RPM's for RH 8.0
> > 
> > <ftp://ftp.codefactory.se/pub/software/mrproject/RedHat/8.0>
> > 
> > Took me less time to find that then it took you to write the email.
> 
> Im not sure what prompted such a rude email, when someone one was merely
> asking for help.  I could understand the extreme agitation, if someone
> said, "Mr Project sucks, the stupid thing doesn't even let you print."
> 
> However, Alan, appeared to be upfront in asking:
> 
> -----
> > 1-I didn't see it but is there an update to Mr. Project that has print
> > capability?  (I am using what installed with Red Hat 8.0 so it is relatively 
> > current and the web site says nothing about printing but I thought I'd ask.)
> -----
> 
> You must admit that http://www.codefactory.se/ is not necessarily a
> "first guess" url choice for someone searching for information on
> software called "mr project".  We can argue was it really that hard to
> find the url (and the answer would be no).  However, if we want people
> to use GNU/Linux we really should treat them better when they ask
> questions.  Even ones that seem painfully obvious to us. Of course, this
> is my opinion, and like buttholes everyone has one. ;)  
> -- 
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Sorry Alan,

My patience has been short this past week as I've been sicker that I
have ever been in my adult life.

URL to project homepage is easily available by clicking the link on Help
with mrproject application.

Version .90 is listed on first page of homepage with direct reference to
printing now added. Apparently this is the 3rd release since RH 8.0
which gives you an idea about how fast this project is moving.

MrProject is changing so quickly that no distro is going to keep up with
it. This probably points out one of the disadvantages of a distro like
RedHat...they include an immature release of a project and never update
it until perhaps their next official release. 

I guess I expected him to at least look at the project page before
asking but you are right, my impatience was over the top and
unnecessary. My impatience stems from those that make no efforts to find
the answers themselves but want to involve others first. Had it been a
newbie, I would have been more understanding. Alan knows to look first.

I will share my methods of locating a project home page and am always
interested in how others do it...

In this case, the homepage was easily located by choosing help in the
application itself.

Most of the time, I go to <http://www.freshmeat.net> and enter the name
of the application directly into the search engine. MRPROJECT returned
the link to the project home page directly. Failing that, I would
categorize the project software and search it. 'PROJECT'

The other place I search and look is <http://www.sourceforge.net> which
also has a search engine and a novel software locator...similar to
drilling down the categories.

Craig