Linux At Work
DARREN BROWN
plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:01:53 -0700
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Charlie,
This is the kind of story I love to hear about.
I am still new to Linux, but have a good understanding about computers an=
d how to use them. What I am having trouble seeing is the differences be=
tween what is good and/or what is bad with the programs our co-workers us=
e on the daily basis. What they use, is what they have learned to use. =
It is how they perform their daily task of working at a business and prod=
ucing a profit for that business.
What is really good for the co-workers to use? Is the time to unlearn th=
e co-workers, out weighed by, what they are using now with all the headac=
hes? Yes, I know the great advantage of not having to think about licens=
ing issues, so let's not use that point here. You see, I detail with peo=
ple on a daliy basis who do not what to understand how this works. Just =
that they can continue to use, what they have been using.
I am not taking sides here, I just do not see the light at this point. I=
know the light will appear, when the puzzle is complete. Maybe if I und=
erstand what are some the typical functions your colleagues doing and how=
this relates to M$ programs. Then may be I can complete this puzzle.
Regards,
Darren
----- Original Message -----
From: charlie bullen
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 11:41 AM
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Linux At Work
This morning I came in to find a whole office of aprox 15 co workers not =20
working. We depend on 3 things to work, Email, various browser based prog=
rams =20
running on our intranet and various browser based programs running on the=
=20
public internet . Of course, my computer (Suse 8.0 KDE 3.0 desktop) was =20
fully functional and all my colleagues were mystified. They all lined up =
to =20
take turns at my workstation doing their most time criticle functions.
This was a great opportunity because I wanted them to experience how grea=
t the =20
multiple virtual desktop aspect of linux is as we each have at minimum 4 =20
separate functions, each requiring multiple programs and browser windows.=
=20
That was a real hit.
Just Monday, I was talking with our general manager and she was asking wh=
at =20
the real practical aspects of linux were and I was explaining about the =20
avoidance of Microsoft licensing issues, the added reliability and the =20
virtual desktop idea. She was real receptive.
This morning the owner gave me an old PC to use for linux terminal server=
=20
experimentation.
The root cause of the problem this morning was actually only indirectly a=
=20
windows problem. We have a SonicWall that isolates the windows workstatio=
ns =20
behind it and something broke down in the communication between it and th=
e =20
Cisco router. But perhaps if windows workstations were not so vulnerable =
to =20
viruses etc, then wouldn't have had the problem in the first place.
Anyway linux came through again and several users who had never used a li=
nux =20
workstation were impressed as was management.
Later
Charlie
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Charlie,</DIV>=
<DIV> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 1=
0pt">This is the kind of story I love to hear about.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><S=
PAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN> </DIV> <=
DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I am still new =
to Linux, but have a good understanding about computers and how to use th=
em. What I am having trouble seeing is the differences between what=
is good and/or what is bad with the programs our co-workers use on the d=
aily basis. What they use, is what they have learned to use. =
It is how they perform their daily task of working at a business and prod=
ucing a profit for that business.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN style=3D"F=
ONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN styl=
e=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What is really good for the c=
o-workers to use? Is the time to unlearn the co-workers, out w=
eighed by, what they are using now with all the headaches? </SPAN><=
SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Yes, I know the grea=
t advantage of not having to think about licensing issues, so let's =
not use that point here. You see, I detail with people on a daliy b=
asis who do not what to understand how this works. Just that they c=
an continue to use, what they have been using.</SPAN></DIV> <DI=
V><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN> </DI=
V> <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I am not&nb=
sp;taking sides here, I just do not see the light at this point.&nbs=
p; I know the light will appear, when the puzzle is complete. Maybe=
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e: AR-SA">f I understand what are some the typical functions your colleag=
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> </DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV>Darren</DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal>=
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"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DI=
V style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; COLOR: black; FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>From:<=
/B> charlie bullen</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wed=
nesday, July 03, 2002 11:41 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>T=
o:</B> plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10=
pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Linux At Work</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>This morni=
ng I came in to find a whole office of aprox 15 co workers not <BR>workin=
g. We depend on 3 things to work, Email, various browser based programs <=
BR>running on our intranet and various browser based programs running on =
the <BR>public internet . Of course, my computer (Suse 8.0 KDE 3.0 deskto=
p) was <BR>fully functional and all my colleagues were mystified. T=
hey all lined up to <BR>take turns at my workstation doing their most tim=
e criticle functions.<BR><BR>This was a great opportunity because I wante=
d them to experience how great the <BR>multiple virtual desktop aspect of=
linux is as we each have at minimum 4 <BR>separate functions, each requi=
ring multiple programs and browser windows. <BR>That was a real hit.<BR><=
BR>Just Monday, I was talking with our general manager and she was asking=
what <BR>the real practical aspects of linux were and I was explaining a=
bout the <BR>avoidance of Microsoft licensing issues, the added reliabili=
ty and the <BR>virtual desktop idea. She was real receptive.<BR><BR>This =
morning the owner gave me an old PC to use for linux terminal server <BR>=
experimentation.<BR><BR>The root cause of the problem this morning was ac=
tually only indirectly a <BR>windows problem. We have a SonicWall that is=
olates the windows workstations <BR>behind it and something broke down in=
the communication between it and the <BR>Cisco router. But perhaps if wi=
ndows workstations were not so vulnerable to <BR>viruses etc, then wouldn=
't have had the problem in the first place.<BR><BR>Anyway linux came thro=
ugh again and several users who had never used a linux <BR>workstation we=
re impressed as was management.<BR><BR>Later<BR><BR>Charlie<BR>__________=
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