Why Linux will win and Micro$oft will lose

Nancy Sollars plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:09:39 -0700


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RE: Why Linux will win and Micro$oft will lose
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  From: Leonard, Robert B Mr EACH=20
  To: 'Carl Parrish ' ; 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us '=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:56 PM
  Subject: RE: Why Linux will win and Micro$oft will lose


  I was a conslutant at Motorola's Flat Panel, before it became a tax =
write off.  It was KevinO and I that started using linux at that =
facility, starting with programs that made management make firework =
sounds, "oooooh" "ahhhhh" with flashing bright lights.  Namely some =
network monitoring apps, that left openview in the dust.  It's the only =
group i regret not leaving consulting and joining full time.

  I could care less about the MS/Linux battles, I like using linux, and =
i hate to see skewed stories/statistics when the OS speaks for itself. =20

  The only thing that amazon has in common with opensource companies is =
that it loses money too.  The fact that thier using linux vs. =
proprietary Unix's is a insanely cool, but don't infer that it's at M$ =
expense, let the OS stand on it's merits and not on misleading =
statements.

  Leave the BS to the professional BS'rs

  A men :)=20

  "The reason that you see open source there at all is because we came =
in and said there should be a platform that's identical with millions =
and millions of machines, and the BIOS of that should be open to =
everybody to use, and all the extensibility should be there."  Bill at =
last MS shareholder meeting.



  -----Original Message-----=20
  From: Carl Parrish=20
  To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us=20
  Sent: 11/10/01 9:08 PM=20
  Subject: Re: Why Linux will win and Micro$oft will lose=20

  George Toft wrote:=20

  > Hi Carl,=20
  >=20
  > My Thesis was on the TCO for different workgroup servers.  For=20
  > servers, Linux is a no-brainer, if you have a competent admin. =20
  > For desktops, the link that Robert Leonard posted supports my=20
  > position quite well (thanks Robert).=20
  >=20
  > George=20
  >=20
  >=20

  Thanks for making that clear George. Despite my post I still had a =
knee=20
  jerk reaction to defend Linux. Thanks for the Link Robert I haven't =
had=20
  a chance to read it yet but will soon do so. BTW Robert did you use to =

  work with ITSS at Motorola?=20

  Carl P.=20

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  <P><FONT size=3D2>I was a conslutant at Motorola's Flat Panel, before =
it became=20
  a tax write off.&nbsp; It was KevinO and I that started using linux at =
that=20
  facility, starting with programs that made management make firework =
sounds,=20
  "oooooh" "ahhhhh" with flashing bright lights.&nbsp; Namely some =
network=20
  monitoring apps, that left openview in the dust.&nbsp; It's the only =
group i=20
  regret not leaving consulting and joining full time.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>I could care less about the MS/Linux battles, I like =
using=20
  linux, and i hate to see skewed stories/statistics when the OS speaks =
for=20
  itself.&nbsp; </FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>The only thing that amazon has in common with =
opensource=20
  companies is that it loses money too.&nbsp; The fact that thier using =
linux=20
  vs. proprietary Unix's is a insanely cool, but don't infer that it's =
at M$=20
  expense, let the OS stand on it's merits and not on misleading=20
  statements.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Leave the BS to the professional BS'rs</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>A men :)</FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>"The reason that you see open source there at all is =
because=20
  we came in and said there should be a platform that's identical with =
millions=20
  and millions of machines, and the BIOS of that should be open to =
everybody to=20
  use, and all the extensibility should be there."&nbsp; Bill at last MS =

  shareholder meeting.</FONT></P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From: Carl=20
  Parrish</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>To:=20
  plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: =
11/10/01=20
  9:08 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject: Re: Why Linux will win and =
Micro$oft=20
  will lose</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>George Toft wrote:</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>&gt; Hi Carl,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt; My Thesis was on the TCO for different workgroup =
servers.&nbsp;=20
  For </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; servers, Linux is a no-brainer, if =
you have a=20
  competent admin.&nbsp; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; For desktops, =
the link=20
  that Robert Leonard posted supports my </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
position=20
  quite well (thanks Robert).</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt; George</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
  </FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for making that clear George. Despite my post =
I still=20
  had a knee </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>jerk reaction to defend Linux. =
Thanks for=20
  the Link Robert I haven't had </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>a chance to =
read it yet=20
  but will soon do so. BTW Robert did you use to </FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2>work=20
  with ITSS at Motorola?</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Carl P.</FONT> </P>
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