AZSAGE (System Admin Guild) topic for their July 11 meeting is listed as "Linux" with presenter "TBD." That will be 6:30pm at IBM, 2929 N. Central, Phoenix; see http://www.azsage.org/cal/ Anyone have further info? The AZSAGE group, like PLUG, is open to all... hope to see lots of you there. \\/ http://www.wlindley.com I know who ESR and RMS are.... who is TBD? <g>