OK Jiva, I have the systems in place .... now I need a little help, 1. how can I be sure the 2 see each other and how do I get my Win95/98 computers to see the server? 2. How do I open the demo from the laptop, I tryed http://207.224.186.249/joetraveler .... It didnt find it. 3. How do I start Zope up from Netscape. I think that will get me started Thanks Ron