Thanks Alexander!!
I always enjoy your feedback.
On 2025-02-21 19:42, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
> Hi Keith --
>
> Once again, you've touched on topics that would be absolutely "low
> hanging fruit" wins with (easily) Ansible and (probably) a little bit
> of Docker. You can easily setup a bare metal web server, and get it
> all configured with Ansible ... But I think Docker would be *clutch*
> in taking the hassle and complication out of FRM/MVC/WEB ... Just my
> two-cents there.
>
What is the advantage in using Ansible for this? Why not just use Plesk
or ISPConfig? I'm talking getting down on the metal and actually
installing and configuring and managing a ton of technology.
I did it once on a laptop 3 or 4 years ago. I leaned a lot and I got
lucky.
> Most of your posted topics seem to lean on your age or tech
> background. I hear a lot of self-doubt mixed in. TRUST ME, I am the
> absolute KING of self-doubt in the technical space. My "M.O." is
> usually "hating" a technology because it's "stupid", which is just a
> cover for me not knowing it and not being confident in my ability to
> learn new things.
>
self-doubt or an accurate assessment? I an a PHP developer not a system
admin. I let my skills become rusty and until recent I had not worked
with a server since CentOS. I've learned a lot in the last 6 months and
feel stronger than ever.
Yes I did configure that web server however I did not configure it to us
PHP-FPM which I think is a critical piece.
> Once upon a time I though "Regular Expressions" were "stupid" ... It's
> been about 10 years since I climbed over that hill.
I see the value however this is not part of my skill set.
>
> You've got this, because I believe in you -- WE believe in you, and
> the fact that you're asking these kinds of questions means you're
> already trying to take the first step(s).
Thanks for the encouragement.
>
> Take an afternoon to review Ansible and YAML. YAML, as a language was
> extremely simple to "get the hang of" ... For the essential basics. 8
> years later and I'm still learning new things ... But the
> "simple-pimple" basics can be had in an afternoon.
I still do not see the value in Ansible for what I want to do. I think
the value for me is installing Linux on some hardware and spinning up
and configuring each part of the puzzle with the end goal of a complete
web server. There is a lot to learn. I think by going through each
step on the command line would be the best learning opportunity.
Yes I have some skepticism. A lot of skepticism. To build a web server,
a complete web server, on the command line, with DNS, email, webmail,
Let's Encrypt ... etc is a ton of technology and a ton to know. AND it
is a ton to support.
I must confess that if I am able to learn enough to make this a reality
I think I will have earned a place on the porch with the big dogs.
This email exchange has caused me to look at this a bit harder. I made
the comment that I would be a fool to build a web server from scratch.
I realized I was looking at this from a business owner's perspective.
They need their website to just work w/o a lot of attention so they can
attend to their business.
That is what I meant by being a fool.
I am in the business of learning and sharing on YouTube and via my blog.
So taking this journey might just be the thing to do.
The last part of this is not to get distracted. There are lots of shiny
objects out there. To be successful I have to say NO to some of them.
I am going to start putting a plan together for going bare metal.
Thank you for taking this journey with me!!
Keith
>
> Ansible is a bit deeper, but a couple of weeks dicking around the CLI
> will have you running playbooks in no time.
>
> If you fall down the rabbit hole of "Ansible Roles" you'll realize
> that a million-and-two things have already been coded for you!
>
> I hate roles and I think their stupid (see above if that doesn't make
> sense!).
>
> Let me know how I can help!
Thank you for your offer to help!!
>
> ---
> Thanks,
> Alexander
>
> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2025, 18:36 Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is a dying on the vine question. 2 or 3 years ago I ran a web
>> server from my home office. The websites I am running on a VPS in a
>>
>> hosting center server are production. I need them to run
>> effortlessly.
>> That is what I like about Plesk and ISPConfig.
>>
>> I got lucky in configuring that web server that was running on my
>> home
>> office Internet connection.
>>
>> I believe I would be a fool to try this.
>>
>> On top of that I am planning on creating a M-V-C framework and
>> moving my
>> websites to that. And I have a web app I would like to build.
>>
>> I have developed some decent Linux skills, however I am no system
>> administrator.
>>
>> Your Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>> Keith
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