Well If you dig through the proxmox documentation you can migrate Debian
over to Proxmox or even set up Xwindows on proxmox so you can have a UX on
top of the proxmox environment.
This may suit your needs a bit.
https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_12_Bookworm
https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Developer_Workstations_with_Proxmox_VE_and_X11
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 3:29 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> Thanks Arun,
>
> Your last sentence is where I am at "The bottom line -- both VB and
> Proxmox (KVM) are very powerful, you
> need to figure out your use case and pick the appropriate platform.".
>
> I hope to upgrade my desktop and network in 2026...
>
> I currently run Kubuntu on an old Dell with an i5 w/ 4 cores and 4
> threads. It has 16G of RAM... just barely enough. Good enough for my
> needs. I am running an old HP laptop that is WIN10 running VirtualBox
> for development and testing. I run it because it runs my Win only video
> software. I have a Proxmox server on an old dell as well. I have not
> use the Proxmox for a while....
>
> There is a person on the list that does everything on his laptop. That
> is a consideration. I do need a NAS as well. Nothing too extravagant.
> I need a decent backup and something for file sharing.
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> On 2025-01-12 11:19, Arun Khan wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 9:38 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> > <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Anyone using KVM (Kernel-based Virtual Machine) ?
> >
> > Yes, I have deployed KVM VMs since c. 2009 (initially wrote bash
> > scripts for each VM); used virt-manager and virsh later on. And now I
> > plan to use Proxmox VE for KVM VMs.
> >
> >> How does it compare to VirtualBox and/or Proxmox?
> >
> > VirtualBox v/s KVM -- IMO, they are an apple and an orange. VB is a
> > desktop app with its own network and storage drivers that load as
> > kernel modules plus it provides sound and USB support. VB can leverage
> > hardware acceleration (KVM). Whereas, KVM is Linux kernel native and
> > more appropriate for a server setup. I use VB a lot to evaluate
> > software, test use cases, and then migrate the VM to KVM server for
> > production usage. You can also launch VB VMs (headless) for server
> > apps on your desktop, make sure the VM NIC is bridged to the desktop
> > NIC/WiFi and is configured as a DHCP client. On the DHCP server, you
> > can program the VM's NIC MAC address to a fixed IP address. (see
> > 'vboxmanage help' for a synopsis of the possibilities)
> >
> > VB v/s ProxmoxVE (see above). Proxmox (Debian-based) is essentially
> > KVM with a very functional and easy-to-use Web UI.
> > IMO, it is n00b friendly and can be set up on a repurposed thin client
> > (8GB RAM/128 GB storage) or as a VB VM*; a quick and easy way to get
> > your hands wet with the product. It is well documented and the user
> > forum is very helpful.
> >
> > * Here is the power of both tools -- Most modern CPUs support *nested*
> > virtualization; you need to turn it ON (Google it).
> > I evaluated Proxmox VE as a VB VM and spun up a couple of small VMs
> > within the Proxmov VE 🖖
> >
> > The bottom line -- both VB and Proxmox (KVM) are very powerful, you
> > need to figure out your use case and pick the appropriate platform.
> >
> > HTH
> > --
> > Arun
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