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Author: Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
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CC: Stephen Partington
Subject: Re: a local Dropbox thing?
I have Nextcloud installed and running locally in a VM with some dedicated
storage. I have a domain and I have set it up to run through Cloudflare to
manage some additional security with an origin cert on my local load
balancer.

On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 2:10 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
> wrote:

> I poked around the NextCloud site and found they have something called
> HomeDrive. They have bundled their software with a hardware device. It
> seems to fit what I’m looking for, but I’d rather host it on the little
> Dell Optiplex box I just got. Do you (or anybody) have any experience
> self-hosting this particular thing? Would there be any problem installing
> it to run under Win 10? (I think Win 10 has the ability to install Linux,
> right? Might that help?)
>
> BTW, I don’t need everything that Dropbox does. There are some things
> about it that annoy me, like how it will try to mirror everything you have
> onto a machine that has far too little storage for all of it. You can tell
> it NOT to do that, but then you have to go in and explicitly say what you
> DO want it to mirror, if anything. It’s kind of a kluge, because their goal
> is to get people paying to use their cloud, which is the opposite of
> hosting files locally.
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2024, at 12:35 PM, Todd Cole via PLUG-discuss <
> > wrote:
>
> I have been using Nextcloud/Owncloud for over 7 years and am 100% happy
> with it for all my needs. My computers are now just place holders with
> everything synced to Nextcloud
> so all my computers are always current and backed up. plus it keeps
> deleted and versions for fallback plus way too many other options. it is
> also quite easy to install.
> Recently Just as a test we setup Ubuntu 24.04 and Nextcloud Server snap
> and I think that is my new direction as it is easier faster and no
> Dependencies to deal with
> upgrade are just snap refresh
>
> Todd
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 9:26 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
> > wrote:
>
>> The part i like about Nextcloud voter an Rysnc backup is that I can
>> connect to the files via my phone or laptop just as easily. but I also am
>> not considering this a backup as much as it is a file sync that is hosted
>> in my home.
>>
>> And rsync backup I would consider far more detailed, but you can also
>> connect that via nextcloud if you want both.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 10:50 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss <
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Or you can just setup an rsync to do it. That's how all my backups work.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alexander
>>>
>>> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2024, 14:00 Snyder, Alexander J <
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's called Syncthing.
>>>>
>>>> https://syncthing.net/
>>>>
>>>> Syncthing is a continuous file synchronization program. It synchronizes
>>>> files between two or more computers in real time, safely protected from
>>>> prying eyes. Your data is your data alone and you deserve to choose where
>>>> it is stored, whether it is shared with some third party, and how it’s
>>>> transmitted over the internet.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alexander
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2024, 13:42 David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What sort of options are available for creating something that works
>>>>> like Dropbox only just on your local network?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dropbox works ok, but it sort of requires files to be duplicated
>>>>> inside of all of the local machines. I want my project-related files all
>>>>> stored in one place, not inside of different machines, because I’m at the
>>>>> point where I’ve got tools that run on one or another machine that can’t be
>>>>> upgraded further without a big cost, while the existing ones still work
>>>>> just fine for my needs. Also, I don’t want to have to pay for multiple
>>>>> licenses for something (eg., MS Office) when I can just use one machine for
>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve got two older Intel-based Mac Minis, a new (M4) one on order, and
>>>>> just got a little Dell Optiplex box; I want them all to be able to access a
>>>>> common file-store in order to share files. I also want to be able to use my
>>>>> various mobile devices to connect to the local WiFi hub to see them if
>>>>> needed. (Maybe I could use the Optiplex for that since it’s intended to be
>>>>> a server anyway. It needs to run Windows tho.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I also have a small 4GB Samsung T-9 that’s fast enough that it
>>>>> performs like a local SSD storage when connected to a USB 3.2 Gen2 port. I
>>>>> want to make it visible to all of the machines, and be able to add more in
>>>>> the future as my needs expand. (This thing is the size of a stack of 10
>>>>> credit cards.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a perfect world, there would be something like a USB port
>>>>> multiplexer with USB 3.2 Gen-2 plugs on two sides that lets you plug in
>>>>> some external USB drives on one side and computer USB connections (or just
>>>>> an ethernet cable) on the other side. Each computer would be able to see
>>>>> each of the USB drives and interact with them as if they were all plugged
>>>>> into each machine. I’m not aware anything like this exists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe I could hang something off of the main router? But then it’s
>>>>> just another machine acting as a file store, like a NAS, but it needs to be
>>>>> really simple and just look like other mounted drives, like how we used to
>>>>> see drives on file servers 20 years ago (F:, G:, H:)
>>>>>
>>>>> But if I plug it into the switch in my office that’s also plugged into
>>>>> the main router (via wire) then that’s the same thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any appliances that fit this use-case that don’t cost very
>>>>> much? Or could one be built fairly easily?
>>>>>
>>>>> -David Schwartz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>
>> Stephen
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