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Author: Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss
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CC: Snyder, Alexander J
Subject: Re: RedHat for home lab PHP development
That's how it used to be, back when RedHat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) and
CentOS were equal peers on the Software Development Lifecycle River.

The "upstream" distro was Fedora, all the newest, most bleeding edge stuff.

You could get and install CentOS and be (virtually) Bug-For-Bug compatible
with RHEL Proper. All was right in the world, but this wasn't making a cent
for RedHat. Why buy the cow, when I can get the milk for free?!

Then RedHat "killed" CentOS by moving it "Upstream" next to Fedora. No
Enterprise company would ever run that in production, EVER ... and that was
the point.

Most large enterprises migrated their production CentOS over to RHEL proper
and started paying several hundred thousand a year for that privilege.

Speaking from first hand experience, the Arizona power company APS -- we
pay just under a MILLION dollars a year for JUST the Ansible Automation
Platform (AAP) ... That's not counting all the actual RedHat VMs we use, or
RedHat Satellite. We're probably into RedHat for 3-5 million, all in, every
year.

But back to David's point. Ubuntu Server does have market share, albeit
drastically smaller, but does exist.

---
Thanks,
Alexander

Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro

On Thu, Dec 5, 2024, 13:37 David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
> wrote:

> Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but my imprssion is that Ubuntu is
> mainly for desktop use, while CentOS is used by a vast number of commercial
> hosting companies for their hosting machines.
>
> Also, CentOS is basically a pre-configured Red Hat distro, while Ubuntu is
> GUI-oriented Debian distro.
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 5, 2024, at 11:42 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
> > wrote:
> >
> > Asked AI about configuring a Vhost oh RedHat and it wants Apache to be
> the docroot owner. It also shows some manual config for VSC...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2024-12-05 11:14, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >> Thanks....I'm in consideration/research stage.
> >> On 2024-12-05 10:53, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
> >>> Okay, seriously though, it's easy. Go setup a RedHat account. Then go
> >>> to developer.redhat.com [1] and do that flow. I don't immediately
> >>> remember what that requires, but it's fairly straightforward and free.
> >>> I only have to revisit that flow once per year, and I have trouble
> >>> remembering what I did last week.
> >>> You can then navigate their site and download the RHEL iso and create
> >>> a VM from it. During the setup you can register your VM, or you can do
> >>> it later from the CLI.
> >>> Let me know if you have any issues.
> >>> ---
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Alexander
> >>> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
> >>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2024, 10:43 Snyder, Alexander J
> >>> <> wrote:
> >>>> Yeah. Use RHEL Proper. It's the tits.
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Alexander
> >>>> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2024, 10:39 Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> >>>> <> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>> As mentioned before I used to use CentOS as a development and
> >>>>> testing
> >>>>> web server.
> >>>>> As I recall it was simple to configure a virtual host.
> >>>>> 1) create the docroot off the home directory like this
> >>>>> /home/<user-name>/public_html/
> >>>>> 2) Create an Apache Virtual host configuration file. I recall
> >>>>> having
> >>>>> one "large" Apache configuration file that contained all of my
> >>>>> virtual
> >>>>> hosts.
> >>>>> I'm a PHP developer not a system administrator. All these Ubuntu
> >>>>> PHP-FPM configuration issues are causing me to re-consider Ubuntu
> >>>>> as a
> >>>>> server... YIKES!!
> >>>>> I want to keep things simple so I can get onto my PHP coding
> >>>>> projects.
> >>>>> Any Thoughts?
> >>>>> Thanks!!
> >>>>> Keith
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