On 2024-12-01 13:31, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
> I also very much dislike Ubuntu/Debian, and I very much liked CentOS.
My favorite is Ubuntu. I run Kubuntu on my desktop and only Ubuntu on
my VMs.
I am a fan of how easy it was to configure a virtual host on CentOS.
> I was sad when it was "killed". There are the "Bug-For-Bug" compatible
> clones like AlmaLinux or RockyLinux ... I prefer to keep it original.
> Are you aware that RedHat proper is free to use?
Did not know that.
>
> Go to redhat.com [1] and create a free account, then go to
> developer.redhat.com [2] and you can get your free developer account.
>
> I think it's like 20 free systems, which I find to be plenty.
>
Thanks for the heads-up.
> I run my entire homelab stack on RHEL proper.
>
I'm all in with Ubuntu.
Started my Linux journey with RedHat. Shortly thereafter I converted to
Debian. I was a member of the Tucson Free Unix Group and they were all
in for Debian.
I used CentOS because I had a client that was using it. As I recall
CentOS 5 was out for a long time. Then there was 6 and then it died.
Am I correct?
> ---
> Thanks,
> Alexander
>
> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2024, 13:17 <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-12-01 08:10, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>> I'm not sure you're understanding what I meant when I said
>>> "key-authentication" .... You've mentioned a few times in response
>> to
>>> that, that you're on a local network.
>>>
>>> I'm referring to SSH Keys, so you can quickly authenticate to any
>> of
>>> your VMs without a password.
>>
>> I understand. I appreciate you suggesting that. I have been aware
>> of
>> SSH Keys for a long time. Never have used one.
>>
>> I'm a PHP developer. I first came to know about Linux in around
>> 1998.
>> In the beginning it was this really cool counter culture thing.
>>
>> I'm working a project that might take another year. I'll talk about
>> it
>> then. It does require things be as simple as possible. Keep It
>> Simple
>> Stupid (KISS).
>>
>> I do not like using those utilities that mimic Linux that are used
>> by
>> some for development. I've tried them and find creating VMs on
>> VirtualBox is far better. This requires some LAMP skills. That is
>> my
>> niche. I liked CentOS much better because the virtual host docroot
>> was
>> off the user's home directory. It was super easy to configure. Now
>>
>> with Ubuntu we have to use PHP-FPM so the ssh user is the docroot
>> owner.
>> Another layer of complexity. I have learned enough to get PHP-FPM
>> to
>> work... Yikes.
>>
>> PHP has gotten more complex as well. Things like Composer, Name
>> Spaces,
>> Dependency Injection... etc.
>>
>> I know all the fancy PHP developers are looking at me like I am
>> crazy,
>> and maybe I am. I don't think I am. I truly want to question what
>> they
>> are doing.
>>
>> I spent a decade on PHP5. Served me well.
>>
>> Several things have shaped my thought on technology.
>>
>> Around 1996 I experienced four things:
>>
>> 1) I ran into a business owner who told me he had written a Basic
>> app to
>> run his business.
>>
>> 2) I went into a warehouse that was run on a Commodore 64.
>>
>> 3) Met a guy that was working on a daycare management system that
>> was
>> based on the Commodore 64.
>>
>> 4) I was introduced to dBaseII.
>>
>> I am trying to get back to that. We need to create technology that
>> a
>> business owner and that middle school kid can use and do something
>> worthwhile.
>>
>> So that is my story and I'm sticking to it!!
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alexander
>>>
>>> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2024, 07:01 <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since this is only local to my private network, I am going to
>> start
>>>> over. I am using virtual box and every time I upgrade I clone
>> the
>>>> last
>>>> successful configuration. So in the case of a failed issue I can
>>>> start
>>>> over by deleting the current VM and clone the last successful VM
>> and
>>>>
>>>> start over.
>>>>
>>>> I'm also going to uninstall VSC since it has configurations going
>>>> back
>>>> several years. I have high hopes for VSC....
>>>>
>>>> As for using key-authentication this is all local on a private
>>>> network
>>>> and my domains are all non-routable .internal.
>>>>
>>>> I use the hosts files for DNS.
>>>>
>>>> Wish me luck!! I may return.
>>>>
>>>> On 2024-11-30 15:49, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>> Hi Alexander!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-11-30 15:21, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>>>>> I use Visual Studio Code a ton. Whenever I've had an issue with
>>>> SSH on
>>>>>> code it's usually due to an issue in the SSHD Config.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check the "output" tab in VSC, as it'll have helpful output
>>>> there.
>>>>>> Typically, in the SSHD Config file you'll need:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AllowAgentForwarding yes
>>>>>> AllowTcpForwarding yes
>>>>>> TCPKeepAlive yes
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll check into this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would also *HIGHLY* suggest using key-authentication, just in
>>>>>> general -- but most especially when using VSC with Remote SSH.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is only local so I like to keep things simple.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Alexander
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2024, 14:51 Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>>>>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am having difficulty connecting remote using Visual Studio
>>>> Code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Desktop is running Kubuntu 24.04lts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remote is a laptop running Win10 with VirtualBox installed and
>>>>>>> multiple
>>>>>>> Ubuntu 24.04lts LAMP servers configured. Only one is running.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have 3 users
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) is the user installed during the Linux install. It has
>> Sudo
>>>>>>> privileges.
>>>>>>> 2) A user that has SSH access that I can SSH into via the
>>>> konsole on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kubuntu. This is going to be a PHP-FPM virtual host owner.
>>>>>>> 3) A user that has SSH access that I can SSH into via the
>>>> konsole on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kubuntu. This is going to be a PHP-FPM virtual host owner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can SSH into the box remotely using SSH via the konsole on
>>>>>>> Kubuntu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Users number 2 and three do not have sudo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can access the virtual hosts via FileZilla using user 2 and
>> 3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can remote (VSC) into the VM using my sudo user that does
>> not
>>>> own
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> vhosts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will be installing and configuring PHP-FPM so my virtual
>> hosts
>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>> owned by a SSH user so I can do programming in real time /
>>>> remote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AI gave me a list of things to do and test which I did, such
>> as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Set /etc/ssh/sshd_config to PasswordAuthentication yes.
>> Local
>>>> and
>>>>>>> remote are set to PasswordAuthentication yes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog - nothing looks like it has
>>>> anything
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do with VSC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - ssh -vvv lamp@ip-address
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which returns a bunch of stuff and then asks me for the
>> password
>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lamp@ip-address then connects the konsole w/o an issue:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> debug3: kex_input_ext_info: extension
>>>>>>> publickey-hostbound@openssh.com
>>>>>>> debug1: kex_ext_info_check_ver:
>>>> publickey-hostbound@openssh.com=<0>
>>>>>>> debug3: kex_input_ext_info: extension ping@openssh.com
>>>>>>> debug1: kex_ext_info_check_ver: ping@openssh.com=<0>
>>>>>>> debug3: receive packet: type 6
>>>>>>> debug2: service_accept: ssh-userauth
>>>>>>> debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
>>>>>>> debug3: send packet: type 50
>>>>>>> debug3: receive packet: type 7
>>>>>>> debug1: SSH2_MSG_EXT_INFO received
>>>>>>> debug3: kex_input_ext_info: extension server-sig-algs
>>>>>>> debug1: kex_ext_info_client_parse:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> server-sig-algs=<ssh-ed25519,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp384,ecdsa-sha2-nistp521,sk-ssh-ed25519@openssh.com,sk-ecdsa-sha2-nistp256@openssh.com,rsa-sha2-512,rsa-sha2-256>
>>>>>>> debug3: receive packet: type 51
>>>>>>> debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password
>>>>>>> debug3: start over, passed a different list publickey,password
>>>>>>> debug3: preferred
>>>>>>> gssapi-with-mic,publickey,keyboard-interactive,password
>>>>>>> debug3: authmethod_lookup publickey
>>>>>>> debug3: remaining preferred: keyboard-interactive,password
>>>>>>> debug3: authmethod_is_enabled publickey
>>>>>>> debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
>>>>>>> debug3: ssh_get_authentication_socket_path: path
>>>>>>> '/tmp/ssh-2bwrFHjD6Cmc/agent.1207'
>>>>>>> debug1: get_agent_identities: bound agent to hostkey
>>>>>>> debug1: get_agent_identities: ssh_fetch_identitylist: agent
>>>> contains
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> identities
>>>>>>> debug1: Will attempt key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_rsa
>>>>>>> debug1: Will attempt key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_ecdsa
>>>>>>> debug1: Will attempt key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_ecdsa_sk
>>>>>>> debug1: Will attempt key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_ed25519
>>>>>>> debug1: Will attempt key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_ed25519_sk
>>>>>>> debug1: Will attempt key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_xmss
>>>>>>> debug1: Will attempt key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_dsa
>>>>>>> debug2: pubkey_prepare: done
>>>>>>> debug1: Trying private key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_rsa
>>>>>>> debug3: no such identity: /home/keith/.ssh/id_rsa: No such
>> file
>>>> or
>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>> debug1: Trying private key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_ecdsa
>>>>>>> debug3: no such identity: /home/keith/.ssh/id_ecdsa: No such
>>>> file or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>> debug1: Trying private key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_ecdsa_sk
>>>>>>> debug3: no such identity: /home/keith/.ssh/id_ecdsa_sk: No
>> such
>>>> file
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>> debug1: Trying private key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_ed25519
>>>>>>> debug3: no such identity: /home/keith/.ssh/id_ed25519: No such
>>>> file
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>> debug1: Trying private key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_ed25519_sk
>>>>>>> debug3: no such identity: /home/keith/.ssh/id_ed25519_sk: No
>>>> such
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> or directory
>>>>>>> debug1: Trying private key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_xmss
>>>>>>> debug3: no such identity: /home/keith/.ssh/id_xmss: No such
>> file
>>>> or
>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>> debug1: Trying private key: /home/keith/.ssh/id_dsa
>>>>>>> debug3: no such identity: /home/keith/.ssh/id_dsa: No such
>> file
>>>> or
>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>> debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method
>>>>>>> debug3: authmethod_lookup password
>>>>>>> debug3: remaining preferred: ,password
>>>>>>> debug3: authmethod_is_enabled password
>>>>>>> debug1: Next authentication method: password
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - - - - -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any Thoughts Much Appreciated!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>
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