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Author: Michael via PLUG-discuss
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CC: Michael, PLUG
Subject: Re: Ignore him, correct him offlist, or killfile him and move on
I was introduced to Linux in 97ish at an installfest at GCC. I went with a
friend and my computer where we put red hat on it. I remember Hans was
given a red fedora in appreciation for all his work in making it happen. I
don't think my friend ever got Linux running. I STRuggled with red hat for
two months, couldn't get internet to work, before I brought the computer to
a plug meeting and asked Hans to put windows back on it.but I caught the
Linux bug and at the next meeting, or installfest, I put Debian on it.
Everything worked with debian.

You know, I want to get into something IT related. I was thinking cyber
security but programming might be better as I probably will have to train
myself. What do you guys think I should do?

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 10:15 AM <> wrote:

> Thank you Mike!!
>
> What I really meant to say, in part, was there are some really talented
> and skilled people on this list. That is why I said one should take an
> inventory of what you have. You are fortunate.
>
> Thank you for your willingness to help those of us that struggle. I love
> technology and specifically programming. Technology has been a
> love/hate relationship.
>
> I was introduced to Linux in about 1998 or so. I think at that time I
> bought a box set of RedHat version 4.2 ... or so I recall.
>
> I had a couple corporate programming jobs. Nothing special. I had to
> start freelancing to really get into the game. I have to tell you it
> was all God.
>
> In the early days I was also on the Tucson Free Unix Group list. TFUG
> and PLUG have been instrumental in my success.
>
> Thank you for allowing us to lurk on your list and ask silly questions.
>
> Keith
>
>
>
>
> On 2024-06-20 06:14, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > And thank you Keith for your words! I wish I could remember meeting
> > you. The only names I can associate with a 30 year younger face is
> > Brian and Hans.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 8:30 PM Michael <> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the support, Eric.
> >> So glad that things are working out for you!
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 19, 2024, 12:14 AM Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss
> >> <> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Guys,
> >>>
> >>> I am totally blind, and that’s partly due to traumatic brain
> >>> injury back in 1989. I’ve also had my moments where I am
> >>> exceedingly curse when it comes to some subjects. I also tend to
> >>> be a little bit obsessive, compulsive, and that happens to be the
> >>> autistic side of my nature which I’ve had all my life. I am a
> >>> bit unusual, but science and technology are my thing so I tend not
> >>> to ask too many questions because I’ve already done most of the
> >>> research. However, sometimes research isn’t enough and I may end
> >>> up having gas questions here. So, one should look past some of the
> >>> commentary on here and recognize and realize those of us were
> >>> traumatic brain. Injuries may not necessarily operate in a normal
> >>> fashion. I happen to be one of the few exceptions because the area
> >>> of the brain and question for me that was damaged with my visual
> >>> cortex. Also, as an aside, I also have prosthetic eyes, so it
> >>> doesn’t matter what my visual cortex does because I wouldn’t
> >>> be able to perceive anything anyway. In any case, this really
> >>> hasn’t slowed me down much in both the accessibility and Lennox
> >>> fields. I’ve been writing a bunch of scripts, especially for .
> >>> Comes in handy when I want to download a video from YouTube and
> >>> then listen to it using VLC. Makes a lot easier than having to
> >>> deal with the stupid app and their commercials.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, that’s my opinion on this subject and now we should
> >>> probably get back to Lennox and what it can be used for and how
> >>> accessible it really is.
> >>>
> >>> – Eric
> >>> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Opinions and
> >>> research department.
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Jun 16, 2024, at 6:22 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> >>> <> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I hear about and read about everyone wanting to get along. I
> >>> am old enough to know that is impossible. I tend to get political
> >>> and my views are at odds with some or maybe most on the list.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is what I came to say. Shame on you all. You need to take
> >>> an inventory for what you have. Most of you can run me in the
> >>> ground. I struggle with technology. I always have.
> >>>>
> >>>> I talked with Mike about 10 years ago. Apparently you do not
> >>> know that Mike experienced a traumatic brain injury.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike do not let this get to you. It is just junior and senior
> >>> high BS.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've been on this list since 1999 or 2000. Some of the
> >>> questions I ask are probably annoying. I use Google and as of
> >>> late have started using ChatGPT (AI) to seek information. The
> >>> latter seems to do a better job.
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe we are all here because of our common goal to work
> >>> with, learn, and enjoy Open Source - I know I am. I also know we
> >>> do not live in a vacuum. Other things overflow that are not Open
> >>> Source.
> >>>>
> >>>> We are a community. I could go as far as to say we are a
> >>> family. I heard a pastor say once that families prepare us for
> >>> the world. I guess families have a lot of strife.
> >>>>
> >>>> Keith
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2024-06-15 22:54, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >>>>> There's been a long thread of people mocking somebody who asked
> >>> a
> >>>>> stupid question. Yeah, the guy's annoying; annoying Open
> >>> Sourceenough that I piped
> >>>>> all his posts to /dev/null starting two or three years ago.
> >>> This thread
> >>>>> worsens the list's signal to noise, and personally, it
> >>> constantly
> >>>>> reminds me of the annoying person I killfiled years ago.
> >>>>> I have a suggestion. If the guy annoys you, either ignore him,
> >>> correct
> >>>>> him offlist, or killfile him and move on. There's no need to
> >>> mess up
> >>>>> the list with mockery. Whether you believe, as I do, that he's
> >>> an
> >>>>> attention seeking troll who thinks his stupidity is cute, or
> >>> whether
> >>>>> you believe his behavior is entirely caused by some sort of
> >>> brain
> >>>>> injury, either way, the on-list mockery does no good for
> >>> anybody.
> >>>>> Ignore him, correct him offlist, or killfile him and move on.
> >>>>> SteveT
> >>>>> Steve Litt
> >>>>> Autumn 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century
> >>>>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21
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