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Author: Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
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CC: Stephen Partington
Subject: Re: Why put Data Centers in HOT Phoenix?
Water tower evaporative cooling is super efficient in PHX due to the low
humidity (if not the best for the water table) and because of the location
and crazy reliable power grid (cheap too) and minimal weather/geological
events.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 11:14 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss <
> wrote:

> While I'm not certain, I do think it has something to do with it the
> geology. Regarding temperature, everywhere is hot to a 60F data center ...
> The air is gonna get conditioned regardless, and the air is gonna get a
> treatment too. Anyone who's spent any measurable time in a data center
> knows "that smell" ... That carbon paper artificial smell ... But more
> over, "extreme" (excessive) heat is easier to deal with than rain, water,
> and humidity. Additionally, there are no faults, no quakes ... A lot of
> Flagstaff is still geologically active ... at least when compared to
> Phoenix. No tornados, no hurricanes ... Nothing. It's just hot. Hot is easy
> to plan for, and easy to predict, which insurance likes!
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Alexander
>
> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2023, 07:10 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> > wrote:
>
>> verde valley would probably be better. not as hot as phoenix nor as cold
>> as flagstaff.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 8:54 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I get the labor pool is probably a draw.
>>>
>>> I've always wondered why companies want to build data centers in Phoenix
>>> given the extreme heat.
>>>
>>> Last year we had a month with daily highs of 116 degrees. That means
>>> lots of A/C to cool down all that heat.
>>>
>>> I wonder why someplace cool like Flagstaff is not more attractive. I've
>>> been there twice. Once in October and it was freezing and once in May
>>> and the high of the day was 60 degrees.
>>>
>>> In a place like Flagstaff all that one would need to do is pull in the
>>> cool outside air and your center is cool.
>>>
>>> Seems like that would save a bunch of money.
>>>
>>> Keith
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