On 12/11/2023 6:09 AM,
techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote:
> On 2023-12-10 16:30, George Toft via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> Read two articles this week that claimed AI will reduce human work to
>> 3.5 or 4 days per week.
>
> I recall this same prediction with the micro computer in the 80's.
> Did not work out that way.
>
Here's the next job that nobody is talking about: AI Coach. Human asks a
question and and the AI answer is close, but not quite right. AI Coach
alters the prompt until they get the right answer. Skill set required
is very close to that of using a search engine.
>
>> Cheer!!! Wait - two things are going to happen:
>>
>> 1. 20-25% layoff and those that remain pick up the jobs of the fired.
>>
>> 2. Everyone goes to 28-32 hours per week and guess what you'll get
>> paid. That's right - 28-32 hours. The State of Connecticut has a 32
>> hour work week, and the employees get paid for 32 hours.
>>
>> If 10 years is an accurate assessment, that will let us old farts age
>> out and retire so the younger don't get fired.
>
> That creates another issue. They are saying SSI is broke. The
> solution they say is to reduce SSI by 30%. That is a problem.
>
> I'm an old fart and am approaching the econ like it is going to crash
> and SSI is going to be reduced by 30%.
>
> I lived through this same inflationary econ in the 70's and 80's.
What nobody in this country has lived through (folks in England have,
but not too many left) is what happens when your country's currency is
no longer used worldwide to settle trade. That's coming real soon.
>
> I'm thinking a lot of the people on this list will be ok if they are
> willing to adjust to part-time with part-time wages.
>
Which is why I'm retraining for a new career. I'm tired of tech, and I
can barely keep up with the changes in Linux (there - on topic). Took
me longer than it should have to understand systemd - that was my cue to
bail. So now I deal with Privileged Access (that stuff the NSA failed
so miserably at and allowed Eric Snowden access to stuff he should not
have that proved the US was monitoring communications of its citizens
without a warrant).
Next career is freelance movie post-production - I can do it at home and
the pay is poor.
>
>> On another note, I just wrote a movie script. Okay, no I didn't -
>> Bard wrote it for me. Bard gave me three choices, and I liked #2. I
>> reformatted it into a two-column script, had to fix two errors
>> (apparently Bard doesn't know that the first word following a colon is
>> capitalized, and it didn't know the difference between cocoa and
>> cacao). Bard also snuck in something about ethical sourcing of
>> chocolate. So I began researching it. So now the script is 70% AI
>> written and I rewrote the last 30% in a revolutionary twist at the
>> end. This is in contrast to a short short film I had in the First
>> Annual AI FilmFest in October where the script was 70% human and 30%
>> AI written.
>>
>> In both cases, the actual script generation was done in about 15
>> seconds. In the October film, it took me 40 minutes to reformat it.
>> In the current project, it took me 3 hours to reformat/research.
>>
>> AI is our friend, but we really need to keep a tight leash on it.
>>
>
> I see AI being a windfall in the near term. Example would be an
> affiliate marketer could use AI to write articles for his/her blog.
> The article would need to be rewritten, however it would be so much
> faster and potentially more comprehensive, If one can teach AL modern
> SEO then that person could rock!!
>
>
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> George Toft
>>
>> On 12/6/2023 2:00 PM, trent shipley via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>
>>> If AI can take over junior level knowledge jobs now, it stands to
>>> reason AI will mature fast enough to keep pace with the rate at
>>> which junior level practitioners would have gained experience to do
>>> mid-level and senior jobs.
>>>
>>> It's an eventuality that the robots make people obsolete. The only
>>> questions are
>>> 1) whether it happens in 5, 20, or 200 years.
>>> 2) a) whether all humans live affluent fulfilling lives, b) whether
>>> Elon Musk, Bill Gates, and Jeff Bezos live affluent, fulfilling
>>> lives, and the rest of us live in Darfur. c) Skynet suffers no
>>> primates to live.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 2:35 PM George Toft via PLUG-discuss
>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for posting.
>>>>
>>>> IMHO, the future is not in tech, as this article defined it, but
>>>> closely
>>>> related: Identity and Access Management (IAM) and Privileged
>>>> Access
>>>> Management (PAM), Mainframe operations (yes, mainframes are still
>>>> here),
>>>> Red Team (ooooh - sexy :) ), and Data Analytics and Machine
>>>> Learning.
>>>> The pay is definitely comparable to this article's top 5, if not
>>>> higher.
>>>>
>>>> Whereas I liked being a sysadmin, my job got shipped to Argentina
>>>> for
>>>> $6/hr (last I heard, they were up to $10/hr). That's a really bad
>>>> place
>>>> to be. If you want to live a nice lifestyle ... and I've been
>>>> saying
>>>> this since 2005 ... you have to do something that can't be
>>>> off-shored.
>>>> Do something that must be done in this country. Lately, this has
>>>> come
>>>> to mean:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Be inquisitive. How can I make this cheaper, faster, less
>>>> resource-intensive? Why did it break? How do I keep it from ever
>>>>
>>>> breaking again? Will this failure happen elsewhere? Three
>>>> principles
>>>> for success: Make it easier for the User; make it cheaper; make it
>>>> more
>>>> efficient.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Challenge the status quo. Just because it has always been
>>>> this way
>>>> doesn't mean it's the best way now.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Write the solutions flowcharts. If you follow a script (AKA
>>>> flowchart) to arrive at solutions to problems, you can be replaced
>>>> by an
>>>> AI, specifically, an expert system, and in 5 years, a Generative
>>>> AI like
>>>> Bard or ChatGPT. Expert systems been around since the 60's.
>>>> Hell, I
>>>> wrote an AI (simple machine learning) in 1990 that corrected
>>>> spelling
>>>> errors at the command line based on user performance. You need to
>>>> be
>>>> the one generating the flow chart for the folks to follow.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Be able to create metrics on everything you do. "If you can't
>>>> measure it, you can't manage it" is the mantra of management this
>>>> decade. I've had to become really creative with my metrics to
>>>> show
>>>> improvement over time, especially when I begin to alter User
>>>> behavior
>>>> before I figured out the metric. Oopsies. I've also discovered
>>>> how to
>>>> create metrics that track the adoption and consumption of our
>>>> services,
>>>> which helps management when they choose insane paths like
>>>> replacing a
>>>> Gartner Magic Quadrant product some some Open Source stuff that's
>>>> "freeeee." For those that don't know me, I've been an OS advocate
>>>> since
>>>> 1998, but there ain't no such thing as a free lunch and when
>>>> Managers
>>>> see $0.00 licensing costs, they oftentimes fail to understand the
>>>> local
>>>> engineering effort required to meet that Proprietary product's
>>>> capabilities. Yes, this is my hot topic this week as I battle
>>>> three
>>>> levels of management on a fool-hardy decision whose ramifications
>>>> they
>>>> don't understand.
>>>>
>>>> I'm in the process of changing careers. The biggest problem I see
>>>> is
>>>> the total lack of people that can do the above. Our replacements
>>>> don't
>>>> exist. My whole US team is within 5 years of
>>>> retirement/resignation and
>>>> we have nobody to replace us. Wanna thrive in the next 20 years,
>>>> be the
>>>> one that can do the above. Be our replacements.
>>>>
>>>> BTW - I just had a film in the First Annual AIFilmFest and I
>>>> interrupted
>>>> the film to sound the alarm about Generative AI taking over junior
>>>> level
>>>> jobs. But I rant ...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>> George Toft
>>>>
>>>> On 12/2/2023 7:30 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Found thins interesting:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2023/12/01/these-are-the-10-highest-paying-tech-jobs-in-the-us/?sh=276f0e8c515a
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
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