Haha, and today I see this.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/chatgpt-generates-windows-11-pro-keys
I laugh ironically at M$ when even AI helps you pirate your poor choice in
OS. "Well if you must use windoze, here's a key..."
Mostly exploiting the same OEM key vs proper licensing. Microsoft paved
the way to hell on this one, yet they oddly remain profitable!
-mb
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 9:00 PM Michael Butash <
michael@butash.net> wrote:
> Great input, thanks!
>
> I'm as much as economist as a lawyer, (ie. not, too angry), but love
> exploring these weird corner cases. Most cases my customers are already
> paying for windoze licenses for me, even office, visio, other things I
> might request, but I tend to need them locally on systems, and keep
> windows+visio/project accordingly as vm's myself. If I ask a company, it's
> like $1000 service catalog fee for office+visio+project+windoze itself. Or
> I just buy it myself for all out the door $40 and ignore the PHB problems.
>
> If I were a mega corp, I'd exploit these just to do so and see what
> Microsoft does. I skirt the line of business and personal use, and feel no
> remorse for any wrongs against The Beast Microsoft. I have to imagine some
> do, I'd love to hear the war stories.
>
> My Microsoft use is mostly educational, running domain software stacks
> that are windoze-only, as I need to interact with products around it in
> literally any enterprise today. I was pondering buying some server keys
> to build out modern AD (fsmo, gc, ldap, kb5) to test some software
> integration like NAC features (packetfence) and some vendor integrations
> around a "typical" enterprise setting.
>
> I'm not making money on microsoft, just mostly need to understand how
> broken it is when my customer admins ask me what to do with their domain
> crap. It's not bad to have a small test domain around ala contoso.com
> with accounts to test against for security features, as every poor bastard
> needs windoze around...
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 2:20 PM trent shipley via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_segmentation
>>
>> From a producer perspective, segmentation is GOOD.
>> From a producer perspective producing the Nth copy of a good almost for
>> free is fantastic.
>>
>> But if consumers can ALSO copy and distribute your product at very, very
>> low cost, that is Very Bad.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:33 AM AZ Pete via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Just to chime in here as a long time Windows user (SQL Server DBA), you
>>> technically don't even need a key to run Windows. I run several Windows VMs
>>> in "unactivated" mode and have never run into any issues (I don't really
>>> like "wasting" keys on VMs). Granted that there a few restrictions, such as
>>> being unable to change desktop wallpaper, customize taskbar, etc.
>>> Generally, "look and feel" features. But, you will get all the security
>>> updates and retain full functionality of the O/S and it won't "expire".
>>> Note that this applies to Windows desktop, Windows Server will "expire"
>>> after about four months after which you must reinstall the O/S (total BS
>>> since SQL Server Developer edition is free & never expires, but the license
>>> is for dev purposes only not production use). I have bought keys from
>>> Kinguin.net over the years, but haven't done so it a while. They are legit
>>> keys, but technically they are OEM keys. A bit of a "grey" area, but use
>>> you're own judgement.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/16/2023 7:31 AM, Anthony Radzykewycz via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m curious to know if the keys bought off this site would match any
>>> keys found in places like this:
>>> https://gist.github.com/jhermsmeier/5959110. Also, what would be the
>>> liability if you paid for the license and that key was pirated like this?
>>> To be clear, I agree with the advocation of getting these keys as
>>> inexpensively as possible. Just thought I’d throw this out there and maybe
>>> you could do a quick compare just in case.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 7:24 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for sharing this Michael!! If I can get a legit copy of Win10
>>>> and Win11 for cheep I will eventually install on a VM.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2023-06-16 04:21, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>> >> Are the installation discs sufficient to install Win10 on a no-OS
>>>> > computer (or a Linux computer with some extra space on the root
>>>> > drive)?
>>>> >
>>>> > Yep, you install the iso from microsoft.com [1] so it's legit, vm or
>>>> > hardware, give it a key during/after install, and off to the races.
>>>> >
>>>> > -mb
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 11:15 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
>>>> > <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss said on Thu, 15 Jun 2023 18:22:08
>>>> >> -0700
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> So interestingly enough, if/when I need windoze, I often buy from a
>>>> >>> place like THIS, as a method of getting Windoze officially
>>>> >> licensed,
>>>> >>> flat cheap.
>>>> >>>
>>>> > <
>>>> http://mail.sendmailco.com/index.php/campaigns/tb637ap0sybfa/track-url/gv224svhyh867/11430a51e55c5971d23f31e2e7ede8b0f9331165
>>>> >
>>>> >>> It updates itself, never had a problem, and simply just works.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Are these legitimate licenses, or Far-East knockoffs?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Are the installation discs sufficient to install Win10 on a no-OS
>>>> >> computer (or a Linux computer with some extra space on the root
>>>> >> drive)?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Can you install these as Qemu guests on my Linux computer?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> SteveT
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Steve Litt
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