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Author: Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
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CC: Michael Butash
Subject: Re: Windoze licenses, "Bring us your Poor" edition
These are as far as I have ever been able to tell actual, working
licenses. I'm on my 3rd copy of use between different devices over
probably 6+ years now, Microsoft blesses my pc still as authentic, so not
like it dies after a few months or eventually figures itself out. My
current win10 copy I've used for 2+ years, and still have versions on older
systems I don't use as much anymore, but presume they'd start and update
without issues without going into Pirate Edition mode.

One thing that is a bit otherwise sheisty, I did buy a 2-pack of win10
licenses, used the first, and went to use the second a few weeks later, and
the key no longer worked, but contacting them they did regenerate me a key
that works. I've also had them give me keys that didn't work immediately
too, but again support will give me new working keys.

I contemplated for a bit on this, wondering just how legal or shady these
are, and went down some rabbit holes of thought. One thought was they just
randomly try keys until they use some online means of validating them, sell
them as quick as possible, thus if I wait too long they're already DOA.
I'd imagine later MS would put me into Pirate Mode lockdown if so...

Second, I tend to think these are more than likely just sold dirt cheap via
3rd world countries where Microsoft will take what it can get, even pennies
vs. just having Billions of people using the same pirated WinXP copy as it
was in the early 2000's and beholden to inherent insecurity. Cisco and
other mega manufacturers do this commonly in 2nd and 3rd world nations, as
otherwise no one could afford them legitimately there, but hey stupid
westerners with more money than brains, sure we'll take that $200 windows
license fee! Obviously they'd rather have $200 than $7, but when you print
money as licenses as they do, copper or paper, it's all cash, and they'll
take what they can get.

Think about that some, how does that make *you* feel? Makes me want to
crumple a dollar bill and throw it at Microsoft quoting Bricktop from the
movie Snatch: "If I throw a dog a bone, I don't want to know if it tastes
good or not." Besides, I've more than paid the microsoft tax over the past
30 years for windows licenses on devices I never needed or used with Linux.

I'd love someone to actually explain how these work and what the racket
is. Other companies do this, I saw another random asian company ad on
lifehacker selling the same win10 keys for like $20 bucks, and an hour
later they had ads for windoze licenses "on sale" for $179. Something
tells me there would be bloody murder and "Night the Lawyers Attack" if
Best Buy started selling windoze copies for $7. Knowing is half the
battle, so why pay more?

-mb


On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 7:32 AM Anthony Radzykewycz via PLUG-discuss <
> wrote:

> I’m curious to know if the keys bought off this site would match any keys
> found in places like this:
> https://gist.github.com/jhermsmeier/5959110. Also, what would be the
> liability if you paid for the license and that key was pirated like this?
> To be clear, I agree with the advocation of getting these keys as
> inexpensively as possible. Just thought I’d throw this out there and maybe
> you could do a quick compare just in case.
>
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 7:24 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sharing this Michael!! If I can get a legit copy of Win10
>> and Win11 for cheep I will eventually install on a VM.
>>
>>
>> On 2023-06-16 04:21, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> >> Are the installation discs sufficient to install Win10 on a no-OS
>> > computer (or a Linux computer with some extra space on the root
>> > drive)?
>> >
>> > Yep, you install the iso from microsoft.com [1] so it's legit, vm or
>> > hardware, give it a key during/after install, and off to the races.
>> >
>> > -mb
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 11:15 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
>> > <> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss said on Thu, 15 Jun 2023 18:22:08
>> >> -0700
>> >>
>> >>> So interestingly enough, if/when I need windoze, I often buy from a
>> >>> place like THIS, as a method of getting Windoze officially
>> >> licensed,
>> >>> flat cheap.
>> >>>
>> > <
>> http://mail.sendmailco.com/index.php/campaigns/tb637ap0sybfa/track-url/gv224svhyh867/11430a51e55c5971d23f31e2e7ede8b0f9331165
>> >
>> >>> It updates itself, never had a problem, and simply just works.
>> >>
>> >> Are these legitimate licenses, or Far-East knockoffs?
>> >>
>> >> Are the installation discs sufficient to install Win10 on a no-OS
>> >> computer (or a Linux computer with some extra space on the root
>> >> drive)?
>> >>
>> >> Can you install these as Qemu guests on my Linux computer?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> SteveT
>> >>
>> >> Steve Litt
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