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Author: Jim via PLUG-discuss
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To: Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
CC: Jim
Subject: Re: GNOME or KDE?
Many times I've gone online to find out how to configure something. 
I'll open a link and read somebody asking for help with an issue similar
to the one I have.  It seems like the first 47 comments are people
saying not to do that and explaining how they think it's a bad idea. 
Finally, somebody answers the question that original poster asked.

On 3/24/22 18:14, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >> I never know on which monitor an application will launch in after I
> start it.
>
> Funny, this is one of my biggest complaints about KDE since the 4.x
> days.  I use a thunderbolt dock for my 2 external displays, and
> occasionally will lose power or accidentally wiggle the laptop too
> much, power down the displays, or just want to save on power/heat to
> power off myself, all hell breaks loose.  Often once they come back
> up, it'll do some random combination of one or all of 1) reverse the
> order of the displays, 2) reset all settings of my displays (like
> resolution/hz), 3) jumble every damn window of mine to random places,
> 4) move everything to one display only, and 5) resize all my windows
> only on my 3rd display only to be 1px wide. This is a 4k monitor with
> not very thick window borders to begin with to do so!
>
> Freakin' maddening, particularly #5 makes me want 5 finger death punch
> my display when I have to manually resize a few dozen windows on it! 
> Even worse about #5 above, once I resize the window, if I try to move
> the window vs. resize it, it snaps like a rubberband to be 1px wide
> again.  What the hell would you even begin with to troubleshoot
> *that*?.  Is it kde base, kwin, video drivers/card, hdmi vs.
> displayport, mesa, or xorg?  They all blame each other, or me for
> being fancy with my hardware, so I gave up trying.
>
> Trying to describe these to resolve in a bugtracker only nets me
> somewhere between a confused wtf sort of answer or "ohh, mr fancy with
> 3x 4k displays, none of us have that to test with, sorry not sorry". 
> It's like that Dave Chappelle episode teaching customer service at the
> printers, "If the customer says they have windows, tell them you only
> know mac.  If they say they have mac, tell them you only know
> windows.  If they say they have windows and mac, tell them you only
> know linux!"
>
> I've tried gnome shell (hate it), cinnamon (tolerate it, has it's own
> display issues), mate (like it, but missing functionality I'm used to
> in Cinnamon and/or KDE), and unity (hated it, thankfully rip), still
> come back to KDE even with maddening persistent multi-monitor flaws
> for well over a decade now.  I've tried xfce, i3, some others, but
> just never "got it".  I am not a developer and understand why they
> prefer the tiling - I just don't work that way 98% of the time.  I
> move windows lots, and keep a lot of apps open buried in layers,
> calling them forth from my dock as needed, for that KDE + Cairo-Dock
> work great, so long as I keep the displays powered up 24/7.
>
> -mb
>
>

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