They aren't cheap, about $2k for a top spec box maxed out without the
microsoft tax there, but available as cheap as you're willing to sacrifice
as the base model was around a grand with windoze home. I happen to have a
couple 1tb samsung m.2 1tb's floating around unused, I would reclaim to
save some cost, but actually what I like is that they offer a
bring-your-own option.
A bit pricier than I can probably find an xps 13 or 15 box for on refurb or
coupon deals, but I like the concept more than the price. Combinations of
ports are always annoying on my laptops, I rather like they're adjustable
as just usb-c to whatever.
-mb
On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 3:14 PM Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> Got an idea of how much they cost?
> I have an old Dell here with a semi-broken keyboard and windows 7. I need
> something newer. If I can find a replacement internal keyboard for the
> dell, I will slap linux on it and call it good.
>
> Otherwise, I will need a newer machine for some things that I do.
>
> -Eric
> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, equipment acquisitions
> dept.
>
> On Jul 22, 2021, at 9:19 PM, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
> I posted before about these, pretty neat, open-ish hardware, and now
> shipping product. I rather like the modular ports and I can buy it without
> an os (ie microsoft tax). I can buy my own real windoze license for
> under ~10 bucks <https://www.keysworlds.com/windows-10-professional.html>
> anyways if I have to.
>
> If I don't find a decent ryzen laptop soon, I might consider one of these.
>
> -mb
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Framework Newsletter <newsletter@frame.work>
> Date: Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 5:03 PM
> Subject: The Framework Laptop is now shipping!
>
>
> We're excited to see the first press reviews go live for the Framework
> Laptop
>
>
> [image: framework logo]
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> The Framework Laptop is now shipping, and press reviews are up!
> [image: Framework Laptop on desk]
>
> We’re excited to see the first press reviews go live for the Framework
> Laptop and the first orders land on your doorsteps today! With the FTC
> unanimously voting to enforce the Right to Repair just yesterday, our
> timing couldn't be better for delivering a great, high-performance, easy to
> repair product. There is a ton of amazing material to read and watch, with
> more coming in the next weeks. Some of our favorite quotes so far are:
> *“A poster child for the right-to-repair movement, Framework’s modular
> laptop is one of the smartest designs I’ve seen in a long time.”*
> – Lori Grunin, CNET
> <http://trk.klclick1.com/ls/click?upn=AA9MhPBkZCPNkFdCz8NmQEm68Mxq0tDV-2FnMuWKuQt6hsJD9eXGF4nzyF-2BUulUImtVFrZZs-2F-2F6SfgXSSxPgSpTGMhvH57di0P727wepmNVVDjZ2YKmLw52-2B98vpWXEN6jpEmQ9XZDqMRB6jgDoZXdSkMFdZNGTZZvHIpJELerX40WIAwJCU07MyVwqA4qeodgR28exs5UulKO1u8F6hGJyTCrDYS47P6xu6bR6-2F-2FiJolBGtrf1WD1aK5Ijb4P-2BMb7BZSgMVlEj8t5247J7S0p42XAK6kFL9EzliSSuPfkBAbwsZq5iTWFjL0NHC3AgUo098ddi0UZffxzMSt3JNw9UdlbLxvOWvvdYnLwlr7t52pwDJpbPMwE3GFnoVJ2QLhfRL-2FSodgR313l81oTzRvOjV-2Fy9ESnoTm-2B-2FrzmyM2hYwqcZ9GIRXFBqvKRIAYobAwHklqq_vDhyrByJyj9jzFVVCWkYCwRhQWG0c5-2FFU0ssls-2BoBhXj6C5ihuOpiM-2BrrSpsAGGwGX5WTmeM-2FU9gwAaqtVHNNi-2F7HWnQTc1uM22M1aFjPwzwSYaQibvmegOPFLn0VAHQRJEtmfmlqyCdYG35OfqGQvyaR4z3tCtoOwNM-2F68X8yRhvv9y9S9lHmzlQVW4e-2F6eg7GEedbaUp73pQepbAXN5Y1qy4rngT9qHgDsi-2Fwbj-2B7PksISgiyKR6jXr-2F-2BIiNHGNfJ8hdxEUqNsSeJaALka-2Fy6fO1Jjka4Mfv6ZNsHhIV2qLGlfMWvTGxq40-2Bamb16aKEbFtEZAQOYbKR6rBH7Murk6zgbtM2zRf4bYGUaifnyBlAPYxW9jfg36TZCBKsjbjatDeBCCNErgjni6bQM2Tg-3D-3D>
> ( 8.5/10 )
> *“It’s the ultimate Right to Repair laptop”*
> – Gordon Ung, PCWorld
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> *“The Framework Laptop is more than just [a] worthwhile experiment in
> modularity, it’s also a great laptop.”*
> – Luke Larson, Digital Trends
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> ( 4/5 )
> Reviewers loved the freedom to repair and upgrade, the Expansion Card
> system, CPU performance, keyboard feel, webcam quality, and more. Of
> course, inside of Framework, we gravitate towards the critical feedback
> that points us to where to do better. We take every bit of feedback
> seriously, and we want your thoughts as you start using your Framework
> Laptop. This lets us know where to focus for future improvements, whether
> that is for firmware updates, modules, or next products. A wonderful thing
> about our product philosophy is that improvements can go into replacement
> parts and upgrades that every existing user can pick up and swap to, rather
> than needing to wait around and pay for an entirely new product.
> [image: Expansion Card prototype]
>
> We’re grateful to each of you who have ordered already, and we’re looking
> forward to getting your Framework Laptop to you. Batch 1 pre-orders for
> July delivery continue to ship out from our warehouse each day. We’ll
> start Batch 2 shipments for August delivery soon after. We have a small
> number of Batch 2 Framework Laptop
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> and Framework Laptop DIY Edition
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> units currently available for sale, with just a fully refundable $100
> deposit due today. If you pre-order now, some of you will be able to
> receive your order within 3 – 4 weeks.
> As proud as we are of the Framework Laptop (and we’re extremely proud!),
> the greatest thing we have created over the last 18 months is the team that
> built it. It takes an incredible team to build an excellent product this
> complex and deliver it on time. We’re hiring on all fronts
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> to continue developing the Framework Laptop ecosystem and initiate our next
> categories. Let us know if you know anyone who may be interested in
> helping us build products that are better for people and the planet.
> *— Nirav and the Framework Team*
> *The Framework Laptop is now shipping!*
> *Framework Laptop*
> A thin, lightweight, high-performance 13.5” notebook that can be upgraded,
> customized, and repaired in ways that no other notebook can. Proof that
> designing products to last doesn’t require sacrificing performance,
> quality, or style.
> Learn More
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> *Framework Laptop DIY Edition*
> The only high-end notebook available as a kit of modules that you can
> customize and assemble yourself. Bring your own memory, storage, WiFi, and
> OS if you’d like, or choose from the wide range of options we have
> available.
> Learn More
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