That's actually pretty decent, 2x m.2 disks, nice gpu, but still only 2x
sodimm slots sadly. I don't think they do 64gb sodimm sticks in ddr4, so
still stuck at 64gb with 2x 32gb.
Memory is always my largest problem, I still commonly OOM with 64gb of
ram. Occasionally I would even OOM my 128gb desktop. Yeah, I *could* use
less ram, but it hampers my ability to work with various customers and/or
various technologies in the name of virtual appliances I commonly run for
testing, tinkering, and learning.
-mb
On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 9:32 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> The Dell G5 5505 is the closest i have seen from one of the big box crew.
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 9:01 AM Stephen Partington <cryptworks@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I would love that setup as well. This ThinkPad is the closest I have seen
>> to date.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:47 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> My big wants are 4x sodimm slots for ram (ie. I can load it with 128gb
>>> ram with 4x 32gb sticks), 2x m.2 ssd's (raid 1), and 4k display with a
>>> decent gpu, at least better than intel integrated crap. Much like your
>>> beefy thinkpad, just without intel vs. nvidia weirdness that never works
>>> right anyways with a decent gpu, at least under linux. Something
>>> lightweight too akin to my xps15, I don't need a 10lb laptop to haul when I
>>> do go onsite with customers to install their networks in a data center.
>>> I'm old and it hurts now.
>>>
>>> I figure in theory AMD + Radeon will work much more smoothly, and offer
>>> something better than typically shitty intel graphics or adding nvidia atop
>>> intel that requires prime that never works suitably. I don't game a lot,
>>> but with steam proton I was finally able to start playing decent games on
>>> my desktop before it died, my xps15's intel gpu just doesn't have the umph
>>> to deal, and prime is just a basketcase that usually crashes things to try.
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:21 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What would you call a decent ryzen laptop? I have seen several that i
>>>> find very nice.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 9:20 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I posted before about these, pretty neat, open-ish hardware, and now
>>>>> shipping product. I rather like the modular ports and I can buy it without
>>>>> an os (ie microsoft tax). I can buy my own real windoze license for
>>>>> under ~10 bucks
>>>>> <https://www.keysworlds.com/windows-10-professional.html> anyways if
>>>>> I have to.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I don't find a decent ryzen laptop soon, I might consider one of
>>>>> these.
>>>>>
>>>>> -mb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>> From: Framework Newsletter <newsletter@frame.work>
>>>>> Date: Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 5:03 PM
>>>>> Subject: The Framework Laptop is now shipping!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We're excited to see the first press reviews go live for the Framework
>>>>> Laptop
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: framework logo]
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>>>>> The Framework Laptop is now shipping, and press reviews are up!
>>>>> [image: Framework Laptop on desk]
>>>>>
>>>>> We’re excited to see the first press reviews go live for the Framework
>>>>> Laptop and the first orders land on your doorsteps today! With the FTC
>>>>> unanimously voting to enforce the Right to Repair just yesterday, our
>>>>> timing couldn't be better for delivering a great, high-performance, easy to
>>>>> repair product. There is a ton of amazing material to read and watch, with
>>>>> more coming in the next weeks. Some of our favorite quotes so far are:
>>>>>
>>>>> *“A poster child for the right-to-repair movement, Framework’s modular
>>>>> laptop is one of the smartest designs I’ve seen in a long time.”*
>>>>>
>>>>> – Lori Grunin, CNET
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>>>>> ( 8.5/10 )
>>>>>
>>>>> *“It’s the ultimate Right to Repair laptop”*
>>>>>
>>>>> – Gordon Ung, PCWorld
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>>>>>
>>>>> *“The Framework Laptop is more than just [a] worthwhile experiment in
>>>>> modularity, it’s also a great laptop.”*
>>>>>
>>>>> – Luke Larson, Digital Trends
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>>>>> ( 4/5 )
>>>>>
>>>>> Reviewers loved the freedom to repair and upgrade, the Expansion Card
>>>>> system, CPU performance, keyboard feel, webcam quality, and more. Of
>>>>> course, inside of Framework, we gravitate towards the critical feedback
>>>>> that points us to where to do better. We take every bit of feedback
>>>>> seriously, and we want your thoughts as you start using your Framework
>>>>> Laptop. This lets us know where to focus for future improvements, whether
>>>>> that is for firmware updates, modules, or next products. A wonderful thing
>>>>> about our product philosophy is that improvements can go into replacement
>>>>> parts and upgrades that every existing user can pick up and swap to, rather
>>>>> than needing to wait around and pay for an entirely new product.
>>>>> [image: Expansion Card prototype]
>>>>>
>>>>> We’re grateful to each of you who have ordered already, and we’re
>>>>> looking forward to getting your Framework Laptop to you. Batch 1
>>>>> pre-orders for July delivery continue to ship out from our warehouse each
>>>>> day. We’ll start Batch 2 shipments for August delivery soon after. We
>>>>> have a small number of Batch 2 Framework Laptop
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>>>>> and Framework Laptop DIY Edition
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>>>>> units currently available for sale, with just a fully refundable $100
>>>>> deposit due today. If you pre-order now, some of you will be able to
>>>>> receive your order within 3 – 4 weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> As proud as we are of the Framework Laptop (and we’re extremely
>>>>> proud!), the greatest thing we have created over the last 18 months is the
>>>>> team that built it. It takes an incredible team to build an excellent
>>>>> product this complex and deliver it on time. We’re hiring on all
>>>>> fronts
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>>>>> to continue developing the Framework Laptop ecosystem and initiate our next
>>>>> categories. Let us know if you know anyone who may be interested in
>>>>> helping us build products that are better for people and the planet.
>>>>>
>>>>> *— Nirav and the Framework Team*
>>>>> *The Framework Laptop is now shipping!*
>>>>> *Framework Laptop*
>>>>> A thin, lightweight, high-performance 13.5” notebook that can be
>>>>> upgraded, customized, and repaired in ways that no other notebook can.
>>>>> Proof that designing products to last doesn’t require sacrificing
>>>>> performance, quality, or style.
>>>>> Learn More
>>>>> <http://trk.klclick1.com/ls/click?upn=AA9MhPBkZCPNkFdCz8NmQPACLvoO7tQ19BZpV42GWgYF8nXXJfeUtJg4f1doBtYvaI8DrlQtFME5viT-2BfspjF4ycBwgRCplL6fVZV2vSp-2Fs9-2BsY77tQwSORS-2F2ABPQ1e8YrL0r1IS-2FFY-2BnpEt5h2VKlRNkELz75cB-2BEvohqssF0g5n-2B-2BT2tOr9NGpN2lkUiz9wmcJd-2FgsxhnD7bzpq8Khe4d77P9NRHL-2BvkDPhkOdrlEsdtVYW-2BJRuHZkrJcm9LYobA-2FvP-2FwAs7iq2yBEmUqRj8CRdGCDKrwv-2BIgSJRPFM2U-2B4TmlugaA0yGf9He9dZ69h9GnKlScuFtdR-2F7sgFMHedNUzHSl2cseymqMb0CmcU-3DpJlp_vDhyrByJyj9jzFVVCWkYCwRhQWG0c5-2FFU0ssls-2BoBhXj6C5ihuOpiM-2BrrSpsAGGwGX5WTmeM-2FU9gwAaqtVHNNi-2F7HWnQTc1uM22M1aFjPwzwSYaQibvmegOPFLn0VAHQRJEtmfmlqyCdYG35OfqGQvyaR4z3tCtoOwNM-2F68X8yRhvv9y9S9lHmzlQVW4e-2F6eg7GEedbaUp73pQepbAXN5Y1qy4rngT9qHgDsi-2Fwbj-2B50IrBowvHqD0rXWndcq83qAnYyQEU-2FPmgBgXGw61wLZC9UygFDcJTCXaFOhlQmJGZmTdGib8M-2FHoPd84zpK22eGC2MBjDAPdIBUtJF2Thferct9moGJJbk-2FzJni6LTIEfbFVmdKELT72S1w61fyW5obUc0KI6-2BA3tA3IL55Br2Yg-3D-3D>
>>>>> *Framework Laptop DIY Edition*
>>>>> The only high-end notebook available as a kit of modules that you can
>>>>> customize and assemble yourself. Bring your own memory, storage, WiFi, and
>>>>> OS if you’d like, or choose from the wide range of options we have
>>>>> available.
>>>>> Learn More
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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