Is Dreamhost a terrible abuser of privacy?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:24 AM Aaron Jones via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> Please use literally anyone but Dreamhost.
>
> On Jul 23, 2021, at 8:13 AM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>
> I hit send too soon, All of this hosting aside. I have 3 dedicated
> servers, one is a dual Xeon server with 80-some GB ram, it runs as a VM
> host for all sorts of things for me. and 2 mac mini's one is a windows
> server (I know but professionally speaking this is a good thing for me to
> keep in touch with). and the other is a linux server. they are a great
> low-power solution. (look for older 2012 models if you go this route)
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:09 AM Stephen Partington <cryptworks@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> For cost/efficiency, it is hard to beat some of the online hosting
>> options. Dreamhost has a shared plan with unlimited everything and a domain
>> for 9 per month (down to 3 for 1 or 3 years paid upfront) 10 per month Ifor
>> a VPS.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 3:45 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I think you'll find that server of yours used closer to $500 than $120.
>>> Based on the 600watt number that you gave your usage would look like this
>>> on SRP right now under their normal flat rate plan:
>>> Months Number of Days Kwh Cost Machine Load in Kilo watts Cost per
>>> hour(KWH cost times wattage) Cost per day(Cost per hour time 24 hours) Total
>>> Cost (Cost per time period)
>>> May, Jun, Sep, Oct 122 0.1091 0.6 0.06546 1.57104 191.66688
>>> Jul,Aug 62 0.1157 0.6 0.06942 1.66608 103.29696
>>> Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April 182 0.0782 0.6 0.04692 1.12608 204.94656
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Grand Total 499.9104
>>> Even if you machine used half the power you specified it would still be
>>> about twice what you thought it was.
>>>
>>> I always recommend that people don't use their old computers when it
>>> comes to use cases like using them for routers because it's MUCH cheaper
>>> to buy something like a PI or a dedicated router than it is pay for power
>>> to feel a machine that uses waaay more than you need to.
>>> With a raspberry pi under worst case useage with it being use to 100%
>>> capacity you'd only get charged $6.32 per year, but it would most likely be
>>> closer to it's idling cost of $2.82 for power:
>>> Months Number of Days Kwh Cost Machine Load in Kilo watts Cost per
>>> hour(KWH cost times wattage) Cost per day(Cost per hour time 24 hours) Total
>>> Cost (Cost per time period)
>>> May, Jun, Sep, Oct 122 0.1091 0.0076 0.00082916 0.01989984 2.42778048
>>> Jul,Aug 62 0.1157 0.0076 0.00087932 0.02110368 1.30842816
>>> Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April 182 0.0782 0.0076 0.00059432 0.01426368
>>> 2.59598976
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Grand Total 6.3321984
>>>
>>> Brian Cluff
>>>
>>> On 7/21/21 3:50 PM, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>
>>> Back when I ran a home server on my Athlon X2 with 1500 W supply, the machine never drew that much. Even with several disks spinning, 8 VMWare instances going and a few other goodies, that machine never drew more than 600w at maximum. I kept it live 24/7 for a few years and it added less than $120 yearly to the electrical bill. These days, that machine is out of service and is only good for parts. My Mac mini, which draws at most 100 W under full load is on 24/7 and I don’t even see it add that much to the electrical bill here. There are really only 3 high draw appliances in this house now:
>>> 1. The refrigerator
>>> 2. The stove/oven
>>> 3. The master cool evaporative cooler. Everything else either runs on wall warts or only gets used occasionally. In fact, we spend less than $150 a month here for electric. Now, if I put that Athlon X2 back into service, we might see $10 a month in extra use. I am still contemplating putting it back up and using it as my go to linux development machine.
>>>
>>> -Eric
>>> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Utilities Dept.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just read this quote about the electrical costs to run a web server from home:
>>>
>>> Cost: While it may sound cheaper to use that computer lying around doing nothing when creating your web server, when you factor in the cost of powering an old computer 24 hours a day, it can get very expensive. A 250W desktop computer running 24 hours per day at 12 cents per KW/h is a whopping $262.00 per year!
>>>
>>> ---
>>> I think their math is wrong.
>>>
>>> The average residential electricity rate in Chandler is 10.85¢/kWh.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking a low traffic PHP web server running on an old Dell with a 400 watt power supply is not using but maybe 100 watts on average. I've read that the computer should use no more than half the power supply capacity. Is this correct?
>>>
>>> If my home web server is using 100 watts an hour that mean 100 watts * 30 days * 24 hours or 72K watts.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking 72 * .1085 = $7.81 a month.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts are much appreciated.
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>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>>
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>
> Stephen
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