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Author: Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
CC: Michael Butash
Subject: Re: Troubleshooting Apache
Opps, unbound I meant for the replacement dns server.
https://calomel.org/unbound_dns.html

-mb

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 7:39 AM Michael Butash <> wrote:

> Bind zones can be tricky with formatting, probably just observing what
> your tool is generating that works matches the formatting of your
> hand-built zone. Manually managing bind zones is rather annoying I've
> found, this was using it for some very large companies.
>
> Last time I setup dns I used unbind on a hosted server, it's a bit less
> quirky than bind, plus does things like dns over https and other
> evolutionary dns security features. Might find it more to your liking.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 7:27 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
> > wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your help!!
>>
>> It appears Apache is working. The one domain that is using Zoneedit
>> works fine. The domain that is using my zone is not working. Not sure
>> why not.
>>
>> Last night I remembered there was a DNS/BIND doc on "The Linux
>> Documentation Project" So I am just now looking at that.
>>
>> I think the problem might be as simple as my glue records and I have no
>> idea how to verify they are correct.
>>
>> Still learning...
>>
>>
>> On 2021-06-10 18:27, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> > A consideration. You can have multiple domains resolved to the same ip
>> > address. Apache will even sort itself out very nicely in the process.
>> >
>> > That is a "working" scenario and apache basically only cares about the
>> > domain that the browser is looking for and will load up what it has
>> > matched.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 3:27 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>> > <> wrote:
>> >
>> >> For BIND caching?
>> >>
>> >> On 2021-06-09 15:22, keith Miller wrote:
>> >>> Try using 1.1.1.1, 8.8.4.4 and 8.8.8.8
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 3:04 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>> >>> <> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> For keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [1] [1] I had hosts (glue
>> >> records)
>> >>>> set to my
>> >>>> VPS until this morning when I parked the domain at GoDaddy.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The two domains I am working with on my SOHO home server are 1)
>> >>>> keiththewebguy.com [2] [2] and 2) phpcodetest.com [3] [3].
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I setup keiththewebguy.com [2] [2] first and configured BIND9 for
>> >> it on
>> >>>> the same
>> >>>> server.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> To try to troubleshoot I configures phpcodetest.com [3] [3] on
>> >> the same
>> >>>> box,
>> >>>> however it uses Zoneedit for DNS. phpcodetest.com [3] [3] works
>> >> as
>> >>>> expected.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> keiththewebguy.com [2] [2] does not work.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I've tried everything I can think of. I've tested the config
>> >> files,
>> >>>> run
>> >>>> dig, and verified port 53 is open.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I took the zone file for phpcodetest.com [3] [3] from my VPS that
>> >> runs
>> >>>> Plesk and
>> >>>> previously hosted keiththewebguy.com [2] [2]. I forgot to change
>> >> the IP
>> >>>>
>> >>>> addresses in the zone to my SOHO box and the website on my VPS
>> >> was
>> >>>> accessible. When I changed the IP addresses in the zone file to
>> >> my
>> >>>> SOHO
>> >>>> box the website quit working.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I assumed this meant I had an Apache issue and that is when I
>> >> added
>> >>>> phpcodetest.com [3] [3] to test Apache. I've checked apache
>> >> several
>> >>>> times...
>> >>>> And I am about to verify one more time.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thank you for your help!!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 2021-06-09 14:21, Michael Butash wrote:
>> >>>>> Some validation steps from my house here:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ## check who owns it, this is same as whois effectively
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> $ host -t NS keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [1] [1] [1]
>> >>>>> keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [1] [1] [1] name server
>> >>>> ns59.domaincontrol.com [4] [4]
>> >>>>> [2].
>> >>>>> keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [1] [1] [1] name server
>> >>>> ns60.domaincontrol.com [5] [5]
>> >>>>> [3].
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ## confirm sanity that it thinks it owns it too, this is godaddy
>> >>>> dns
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> $ host -t NS keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [1] [1] [1]
>> >>>>> NS59.DOMAINCONTROL.COM [6] [6] [4]
>> >>>>> Using domain server:
>> >>>>> Name: NS59.DOMAINCONTROL.COM [6] [6] [4]
>> >>>>> Address: 97.74.100.31#53
>> >>>>> Aliases:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [1] [1] [1] name server
>> >>>> ns59.domaincontrol.com [4] [4]
>> >>>>> [2].
>> >>>>> keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [1] [1] [1] name server
>> >>>> ns60.domaincontrol.com [5] [5]
>> >>>>> [3].
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ## what does the current soa look like hosted on godaddy
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> $ host -t SOA keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [1] [1] [1]
>> >>>>> keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [1] [1] [1] has SOA record
>> >>>>> ns59.domaincontrol.com [4] [4] [2]. dns.jomax.net [7] [7] [5].
>> >> 2021060900
>> >>>> 28800 7200
>> >>>>> 604800 600
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ## does flash a-record exist? newp.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> $ host -t A flash.keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [8] [8] [6]
>> >>>>> Host flash.keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [8] [8] [6] not
>> >> found:
>> >>>> 3(NXDOMAIN)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ## It does have a base record though for the domain
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> $ host -t A keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [1] [1] [1]
>> >>>> NS59.DOMAINCONTROL.COM [6] [6]
>> >>>>> [4]
>> >>>>> keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [1] [1] [1] has address
>> >> 34.98.99.30
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ## is there a www record?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> host -t A www.keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [9] [9] [7]
>> >>>>> Host www.keithsmithinternetmarketing.com [9] [9] [7] not found:
>> >>>> 2(SERVFAIL)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I get nothing from pulling up the base domain, just a blank
>> >> page.
>> >>>>> What urls are you set to currently for your vhosts?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -mb
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 1:04 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>> >>>>> <> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I have two domains being hosted on this box. The first is
>> >>>> working
>> >>>>>> with
>> >>>>>> my BIND setup and does not work. The second I added as a check
>> >>>> that
>> >>>>>> is
>> >>>>>> using a 3rd party DNS and it works fine. I assume that points
>> >> to
>> >>>> my
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> DNS....
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Interestingly if I change the IP addresses on my Zone to the
>> >> same
>> >>>>>> domain
>> >>>>>> that is hosted on my VPS it works. That I thought indicated it
>> >>>> was
>> >>>>>> an
>> >>>>>> apache issue.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Interesting problem.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Still hoping for resolution....
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 2021-06-09 10:54, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Yeah. There is a default configuration for apache. That needs
>> >> to
>> >>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>> shut off or removed if it has not been already.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 9:05 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>> >>>>>>> <> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I am trying to configure just one domain. I assume you are
>> >>>>>> talking
>> >>>>>>>> about the Apache2 vhost configuration file? I have the
>> >> default
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> one for my domain. Can you expand on what your thoughts are
>> >> in
>> >>>>>>>> reference to "default"? Thanks!!
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 2021-06-09 07:42, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> do you have a possible conflict like "default" used in more
>> >>>> than
>> >>>>>>>> one
>> >>>>>>>>> active config file?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:38 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>> >>>>>>>>> <> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I've configured Apache more than a few times with little
>> >>>>>> trouble.
>> >>>>>>>>>> For
>> >>>>>>>>>> some reason I cannot see the current site I have
>> >> configured.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I am running Ubuntu 20.04lts and Apache2.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Apache is running. I can see the default page when
>> >> entering
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>> private
>> >>>>>>>>>> or the public IP to the box in my browser.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I assume that proves that port 80 is open to the world.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I configured the vhost directive file and enabled it.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I checked the configuration with "apache2ctl -t" which
>> >>>> returns
>> >>>>>>>>>> "Syntax
>> >>>>>>>>>> OK".
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> When I try to access the website via my domain, it times
>> >> out
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> browser says the website is not reachable.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I've looked in the Apache error logs and there is nothing
>> >>>> that
>> >>>>>>>>>> indicates
>> >>>>>>>>>> a problem.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Is there another log or logs I should be looking at?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Any help much appreciated!!
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Keith
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>> >>>>>>>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will
>> >> prevent
>> >>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the
>> >> snooze
>> >>>>>>>> button.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Stephen
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Links:
>> >>>>> ------
>> >>>>> [1] http://keithsmithinternetmarketing.com
>> >>>>> [2] http://ns59.domaincontrol.com
>> >>>>> [3] http://ns60.domaincontrol.com
>> >>>>> [4] http://NS59.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
>> >>>>> [5] http://dns.jomax.net
>> >>>>> [6] http://flash.keithsmithinternetmarketing.com
>> >>>>> [7] http://www.keithsmithinternetmarketing.com
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>> >>> --
>> >>> Keith D. Miller
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Links:
>> >>> ------
>> >>> [1] http://keithsmithinternetmarketing.com
>> >>> [2] http://keiththewebguy.com
>> >>> [3] http://phpcodetest.com
>> >>> [4] http://ns59.domaincontrol.com
>> >>> [5] http://ns60.domaincontrol.com
>> >>> [6] http://NS59.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
>> >>> [7] http://dns.jomax.net
>> >>> [8] http://flash.keithsmithinternetmarketing.com
>> >>> [9] http://www.keithsmithinternetmarketing.com
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>> >
>> > Links:
>> > ------
>> > [1] http://keithsmithinternetmarketing.com
>> > [2] http://keiththewebguy.com
>> > [3] http://phpcodetest.com
>> > [4] http://ns59.domaincontrol.com
>> > [5] http://ns60.domaincontrol.com
>> > [6] http://NS59.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
>> > [7] http://dns.jomax.net
>> > [8] http://flash.keithsmithinternetmarketing.com
>> > [9] http://www.keithsmithinternetmarketing.com
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