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Author: Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
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To: PLUG Phoenix List
CC: Michael Butash
Old-Topics: Re: FLOSS thermostats?
Subject: Re: FLOSS thermostats?
Hi Hans,

Not sure if you've itched a scratch yet, but I came across this today from
another article on his blog, seems pretty cool as a hackable thermostat
with basic relay support 1-stage heat/cold/fan.

https://www.staycaffeinated.com/caffstat_beta
https://gumroad.com/l/caffstat

-mb


On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 6:16 AM Michael Butash <> wrote:

> I actually had/have (in a junk pile somewhere) a couple of these exact
> units - they were all but useless devices as-is. The wifi is a locked down
> firmware that only worked with some godforsaken garbage of an web app
> service with no security. The only way to make it at all useful was since
> they are modular with the wifi component and replaceable with a zwave unit
> that actually did work generically with my Vera zwave controller at the
> time, it was slightly better.
>
> I've just simply not found anything better than Ecobee personally, and
> while not "open", I'll take function after trying to find a perfect
> wifi/other remote one. My buddy had a Nest thermostat, and after google
> began tweeking their software to ruin it, he now has an Ecobee too.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:28 AM der.hans <> wrote:
>
>> Am 04. Mar, 2021 schwätzte Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss so:
>>
>> moin moin,
>>
>> offlist I got a suggestion for Radio Thermostat CT50e
>>
>> "Includes Wi-Fi unsnap module – allows connection to Wife and/or our cloud
>> services. Open API available to allow you to create your own interface. C
>> wire required for Wi-Fi operation additional minimal annual fee required."
>>
>>
>> https://vipoutlet.com/product/radio-thermostat-ct50e-wifi-7-day-wi-fi-module-programmable-thermostat-2/
>>
>> Not certain what a C wire is or why I need to pay an annual fee to use it.
>>
>> The website for Radio Thermostat is wix and requires a bunch of third
>> party javascript, so I recommend avoiding it.
>>
>> On the Fediverse someone recommended tasmota firmware and Sonoff hardware.
>>
>> There are a bunch of posts about that combo. Sonoff looks interesting.
>>
>> https://sonoff.tech/
>>
>> Apparently the tasmota firmware generally works with Sonoff products.
>>
>> I think I'm definitely gonna get a couple Sonoff products to play with.
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>> der.hans
>>
>> > I've not seen one, and been looking a good while actually. I use a
>> pair of
>> > Ecobees, I like them, and they provide a decent external API to other
>> > ecosystems that is well supported. They're probably yet another
>> crapgadget
>> > iot things infected with junk corporate or chinese code, who knows where
>> > they stop or begin. They use some remote external wireless sensors that
>> > are cool for various rooms that really I don't see ever happening, so
>> while
>> > not ideal, ideal doesn't exist today.
>> >
>> > Sadly I think just no one has gotten around to this, or scared to take
>> > responsibility to do so. I use OpenSprinkler boards for, well
>> sprinklers,
>> > and works well enough as an attachment to a RPi - been waiting for like
>> for
>> > thermostat control, but nada. I'd imagine you need some 24vdc
>> conversion
>> > and relays to handle your hvac, rest is all logic to not blow up a house
>> > accidentally, freeze, or bake to death in extreme climates. Who's open!
>> >
>> > Otherwise, just buy an Ecobee or Nest, talk to an API, and hope they
>> aren't
>> > selling you out to anyone by design or ignorance with shoddy dev's.
>> >
>> > -mb
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 2:17 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Fascinating idea, Still searching, but
>> >> https://blog.particle.io/open-source-thermostat/ is a neat read.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 11:48 AM der.hans via PLUG-discuss <
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> moin moin,
>> >>>
>> >>> We're replacing the home air handler soon.
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyone have experience with a FLOSS digital thermostat?
>> >>>
>> >>> Or at least something that doesn't require connecting to the internet?
>> >>>
>> >>> I would like to do some automation via local connections, but want to
>> keep
>> >>> everything within a local network segment.
>> >>>
>> >>> ciao,
>> >>>
>> >>> der.hans
>> >>> --
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>> >> --
>> >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
>> >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>> >>
>> >> Stephen
>> >>
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