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Author: Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
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Subject: Re: Why I hate updates ... Thanks Michael ...

Joseph Sinclair via PLUG-discuss said on Sat, 13 Mar 2021 15:34:12 -0700
>Joe,
> I would recommend running a couple simple cleanups to get some space
> back for now.
>Keep in mind this will be a temporary fix; you will run out of space
>again fairly quickly if you cannot remove some programs or otherwise
>permanently clear some space on the root partition.
>
>Empty the trash/recycle folder
>Remove old kernel versions (I recommend keeping the most recent two)
>Remove less commonly used fonts
> sudo apt purge "fonts-kacst*" "fonts-khmeros*" fonts-lklug-sinhala
> fonts-guru-extra "fonts-nanum*" fonts-noto-cjk "fonts-takao*"
> fonts-tibetan-machine fonts-lao fonts-sil-padauk fonts-sil-abyssinica
> "fonts-tlwg-*" "fonts-lohit-*" fonts-beng-extra fonts-gargi
> fonts-gubbi fonts-gujr-extra fonts-kalapi "fonts-samyak*"
> fonts-navilu fonts-nakula fonts-orya-extra fonts-pagul fonts-sarai
> "fonts-telu*" "fonts-wqy*" "fonts-smc*" fonts-deva-extra
> fonts-sahadeva
>Remove unnecessary apt files and unnecessary library dependencies
> sudo apt-get clean # this will gain a good amount of space, but it
> will fill back up with the next apt update or apt upgrade sudo
> apt-get autoremove --purge # this will remove packages leftover from
> other programs and no longer needed, --purge just makes sure the
> related configs and help files are also removed, cleaning up space in
> /usr/share and /usr/local/share
>
>Check logs in /var/log, if there are some very large files (or a large
>number) that are compressed (old logs are typically compressed
>automatically), you might consider moving those to an archive folder
>in /home where you have plenty of space. I don't recommend removing
>old logs arbitrarily. Look at /tmp, /var/crash, /var/spool,
>/var/cache, etc... See if there are large files you can move to a
>folder in /home or (/var/cache) remove.
> sudo du -ms /var/* | sort -n # This will list folders in increasing
> size order, the largest at the bottom are good candidates to clean
> up, size is in megabytes, so anything over 500 is a good place to see
> if you can clean up.
>
>Look at what you have installed (something like Synaptic helps here)
>and see if you can remove rarely used, but large, applications (use
>apt purge to remove them, so the config and support files are removed
>as well) The typical Mint install includes a lot of software, some of
>that may be things you never use. Try to find large applications
>(things like Evolution, or Banshee) that you do not use, and remove
>those.
>
>As others have mentioned, you need a larger root partition eventually,
>but the steps above should help you clear enough space temporarily to
>limp along until you can accomplish a more permanent fix.
>
>Hopefully that helps you get to a more stable state.
>
>==Joseph++
>
>P.S.
> This isn't relevant to Linux Mint 17, but is relevant to newer
> systems: Note that /var/log/journal often has a very large amount of
> old logs in modern systems. This is the systemd journal, and has
> it's own commands for cleanup: sudo journalctl --disk-usage # Show
> how much space the journal logs take up, in one of my systems this is
> over 6G. sudo journalctl --rotate --vacuum-time=4weeks # rotate the
> journal files, and remove any older than 4 weeks; this will typically
> clear around 2-4G of space on systems that have been running a long
> time. Note that you can also configure journald to rotate and remove
> old logs automatically, this is configured in
> /etc/systemd/journald.conf. I recommend reading the relevant
> documentation before making changes there.
>
>On 2021-03-13 02:23 PM, joe--- via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> Thanks Michael.
>>
>> Yes, I do realize that I probably need to build a
>> completely different system, but for now, I just
>> have to find ways to keep my old system working.
>>
>> Now, after a reboot, I have most everything working
>> again, but for now, I mainly just need to find out
>> how to unlock Libre Office documents.
>>
>>
>> ------------------
>> On 2021-03-13 at 1:58 pm, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> This is why I stopped using physical partitions and LVM instead
>>> entirely.
>>>
>>> If you fill your physical partition, it really doesn't like it, and
>>> all hell breaks loose, as you see. Boot from a boot cd, clear some
>>> space, and reboot.
>>>
>>> Start with "sudo du -h --max-depth=1", figure out what is filling
>>> your disk, and delete some. Reboot. Usually logs, updates,
>>> packages, etc cruft - kill it all.
>>>
>>> When it's sane, move to a more agreeable FS structure, use LVM, I
>>> can fill a disk and stay up, much less impact if/when this occurs.
>>>
>>> I break /var and /var/log into separate partitions always, these are
>>> typically what fill and break. Keep them separate with LVM's, much
>>> happier to recover if any one fills up. I normally keep /usr with
>>> debians separate too, but arch installs hate this. Also I keep
>>> /home separate, as I fill this commonly, which breaks anything
>>> running in userland if/when occurring.
>>>
>>> Funny, I do this because this is how we installed solaris this way
>>> with slices like +20-some years ago to not blow up, but
>>> over-simplification these days ignores fun facts like these.
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 12:57 PM joe--- via PLUG-discuss
>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yesterday, I did another update on my Linux Mint 17 system
>>>> and today numerous things that previously worked fine
>>>> no longer work, including Libre Office.
>>>>
>>>> And, I now see that all the space on sda1 is filled
>>>> so I have zero space available.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I tried to download a pdf file which should have
>>>> gone to sda6 and I got a message "No space available."
>>>>
>>>> What can I do to remedy this nightmare?
>>>>
>>>> I am willing to pay for help if one of my PLUG
>>>> friends would be willing to help me fix this.
>>>>
>>>> Filesystem     1K-blocks     Used Available Use% Mounted on
>>>> udev             4006644        4   4006640   1% /dev
>>>> tmpfs             805480     1560    803920   1% /run
>>>> /dev/sda1       19091584 18141912         0 100% /
>>>> none                   4        0         4   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
>>>> none                5120        0      5120   0% /run/lock
>>>> none             4027392    25920   4001472   1% /run/shm
>>>> none              102400       20    102380   1% /run/user
>>>> /dev/sda6      101787928 33524948  63069256  35% /home

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