I have yet to run them in a proper mesh, but the 2.4 to 5 handover is
really smooth.
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:58 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> How well does Ubiquiti handle things like dynamic channel balancing
> (figuring out what ap should run on non-overlapping channels), band
> steering (moving 2.4ghz clients to 5ghz), and roaming features?
>
> Having deployed Cisco/Aruba/Arista/Mist/Aerohive/Meraki they tend to do
> this, but need some orchestration, which I ass-u-me Ubiquiti *should*, but
> wondering how much tweaking they allow on the RF side.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 7:55 AM Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> I second the use of Ubiquiti devices, specifically UniFi. While the
>> management interface is proprietary, you can run it in Docker or as I do on
>> Debian in a virtual machine. It will automatically discover all Ubiquiti
>> UniFi devices on the network and allow you to configure them all through
>> the same interface with the same or different configuration as the rest.
>> Updates and whatnot all happen through the same interface and makes
>> managing many of them a breeze; for instance, want to change your wifi
>> password? Update it in one place and all of your access points pull in that
>> change.
>>
>> They're not necessarily that expensive either; you can get the UniFi
>> AC-Lite's on Amazon for $89 each; I have 6 of those and one nano HD
>> scattered throughout my house and I have yet to roam to a spot that does
>> not have excellent wifi coverage.
>>
>> They're also all powered via POE so if you're able to run ethernet to all
>> of them and plug them into a POE switch then you don't have to worry about
>> a mess of wires.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have been using Ubiquiti for the last few years. Their edge devices
>> have been really solid, and the AP I have has been super stable. All the
>> management software is free as long as you are willing to set up some
>> containers or vm's which in my mind is rather nice.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 5:11 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>> A lot of the consumer "mesh" products I find are pretty janky after
>> review or use. Not tried Eero, but I did try Samsung mesh AP's for a bit,
>> and found them mostly inept. I considered the google units, but didn't
>> want them uploading everything I do back to google.
>>
>> The term "mesh" tends to imply remote units are NOT wired, and I need
>> both ideally. Dealing with a number of wired AP's usually requires some
>> level of "controller" to orchestrate them, but consumer stuff just doesn't
>> seem to get how this "should" work...
>>
>> I got the Samsungs a few years ago for the "SmartThings" hub with zwave
>> integrated, but their wireless was terrible, and only the root AP did
>> zwave, which I thought would be more distributed across my house.
>> Apparently whoever developed samsung's wireless had no idea how wireless
>> works, and would put my 2.4ghz network running most often on channel 5, all
>> 4 of them, which if you know anything about wireless, you just don't do
>> that. You always use channel 1, 6, or 11, really only channels you should
>> ever use in 2.4ghz. Not sure how common this is among "consumer"
>> products. I crap-canned these after about a year as wireless was terrible
>> at 2.4ghz and even 5ghz was pretty wack as they seemed to think using the
>> same channel was a great idea. Hopefully that person at samsung got fired.
>>
>> Prior to that, I ran a number of wired Cisco AP's (4-5) around my house
>> using a Cisco wireless controller appliance for them, which I installed a
>> lot of across enterprises. Any enterprise solution you can configure to
>> use the right channels, and introduce some channel avoidance between them
>> for proper wireless channel distribution. In the 2.4ghz range, with only 3
>> usable channels (all of which are used by all your neighbors), you're
>> mostly screwed, but at least at 5ghz should be ok if they adjust/avoid used
>> channels, and you get some features like band steering to "influence"
>> devices to move from 2.4 to 5ghz if they behave right. Consumer stuff just
>> doesn't seem to do these features sadly, but good thing you can usually buy
>> old enterprise kit cheap on ebay.
>>
>> I now run a single Arista enterprise AP that does a well enough job of
>> covering my house for my purposes. I also have some Fortinet AP's wired in
>> with my Fortigate firewall as a controller I test with that work both wired
>> and wireless, but use a different SSID for those. I mostly use the Arista
>> for my primary SSID as it's an 802.1ax AP, but the Fortinets work in full
>> mesh (non-wired) using 5ghz for backhaul or as individually wired ap's
>> orchestrated via my Fortigate ala my prior Cisco's, and Arista via the
>> "cloud".
>>
>> I have heard good things about Ubiquiti, but no experience thus far. I
>> almost bought into some, but figured I'd screw with the Fortinet and Arista
>> kit as I work with both lots, and found it best staying with enterprise kit
>> I can granularly control understanding how wireless "should" work. I'd be
>> curious to know how well Ubiuquiti deals with dynamic channel selection,
>> band-steering, and other "enterprise" features consumer crap sorely misses
>> on.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 12:09 PM Mark Phillips via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>> I need to upgrade my home wifi network with a high speed mesh network
>> (primarily for better phone coverage in my house - I make a lot of video
>> calls to the UK). I have Cox Gigablast on my wired network. The issue I am
>> running into is that the "base" unit of the eero units and other vendors'
>> boxes have to connect to either (1) the cable model or (2) the router and
>> not the switch. My modem, router, and switch are all in a cabinet above my
>> desk in the office, so (1) I don't need wifi in the office and (2) I don't
>> relish the thought of having a wifi transmitter sitting 3 feet from my head
>> 12 hours a day. I want to connect the wifi boxes to my wired network in a
>> couple of different rooms away from the office. Eero (and other vendors)
>> says the "base" unit has to act as a gateway (my router does that now), so
>> it cannot be after the switch. Any suggestions on how I can get a high
>> speed mesh network in my house and not take a daily showert in 2+ GHz
>> radiation? I also want to use the wired network as the backhaul channel.
>>
>> Please don't start a discussion on the health effects of wifi radiation.
>> Just assume I am so unscientific and superstitious that I believe in wifi
>> gremlins and I don't want them invading my head.;)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Mark
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