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Author: Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
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CC: Stephen Partington
Subject: Re: New computer.
The option is also to look into a nas appliance such as a synology or qnap.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 9:49 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> wrote:

> I'm sure it is Brian. Thanks for the ideas Stephen. Unfortunately, my
> finances won't swing for that so what I am thinking is to put a RAID
> on my NUCand to run that until it dies (like all of my other
> equipment.
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 12:43 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
> <> wrote:
> >
> > That looks like an excellent machine and the best part is that in a year
> or 2 if you want a faster system AMD likes to use the same CPU socket for
> the majority of their processors and over multiple years, so you can drop
> their current flagship processor into that came machine and have a much
> much faster computer.
> >
> > That's also a good machine since the processor that Stephen chose has a
> built in GPU that is almost certainly more powerful than your current GPU.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On 7/18/20 7:47 AM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >
> > Just an idea and ballpark cost.
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:11 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> yeah? I was planning on doing the enclosure thing powered separately.
> >> As for whether my USBs are 1 or 2 lshw|grep us seems to indicate I
> >> only have USB2. But you know what they say.... play with what you
> >> have!
> >>         *-usb:0
> >>            *-usbhost
> >>                 bus info: usb@1
> >>                 logical name: usb1
> >>                 capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>               *-usb
> >>                    bus info: usb@1:1
> >>                    capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>         *-usb:1
> >>            *-usbhost
> >>                 bus info: usb@2
> >>                 logical name: usb2
> >>                 capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>               *-usb
> >>                    bus info: usb@2:1
> >>                    capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>                  *-usb:0
> >>                       bus info: usb@2:1.4
> >>                       capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
> >>                       configuration: driver=btusb speed=12Mbit/s
> >>                  *-usb:1
> >>                       bus info: usb@2:1.7
> >>                       capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>                     *-usb:0
> >>                          bus info: usb@2:1.7.2
> >>                          capabilities: usb-1.10
> >>                          configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA
> >> speed=2Mbit/s
> >>                     *-usb:1
> >>                          bus info: usb@2:1.7.3
> >>                          capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>                          configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=98mA
> >> speed=2Mbit/s
> >>                     *-usb:2
> >>                          bus info: usb@2:1.7.4
> >>                          capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
> >>                          configuration: driver=usb-storage
> >> maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s

> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:21 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
> >> <> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It's a good idea, however I don't think a NUC will have a big enough
> >> > power supply to support that many hard drives. If you could get that
> >> > many attached to it, it would probably cause the hard drive to fail
> >> > rather quickly on a NUC. You would need to get some sort of external
> >> > USB attached hard drive enclosure with it's own power supply to make
> it
> >> > work right. I would only do that if your NUC has USB3 and the
> enclosure
> >> > also is USB3. USB2 would just make your storage painfully slow.
> >> >
> >> > An NVMe is a new kind of SSD that is essentially attached directly to
> a
> >> > mini PCIe port. Since it can be accessed at PCIe speeds it isn't
> bottle
> >> > necked by the SATA bus, so the read speeds are in gigabytes per
> second.
> >> > Or in other words it makes everything hard drive related happen
> >> > instantly. Boot times are usually less that 2 to 3 seconds. Login
> >> > times are virtually instant. When you first get one, you will tell
> your
> >> > computer to reboot and then wonder why al lt did was logout until you
> >> > realize that it completely shut down and rebooted to the login screen
> in
> >> > less time than your old computer could just logout.
> >> >
> >> > Brian Cluff
> >> >
> >> > On 7/18/20 12:35 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >> > > Thanks Brian. The hard drive is actually only 5yo with 2 years of
> use.
> >> > > What is a NVMe? What do you think about what I';m thinking about
> doing
> >> > > with the NUC?
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 3:29 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
> >> > > <> wrote:
> >> > >> You'll need RAM too... didn't see that in the list.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I would also make sure that you get a motherboard that has a place
> for
> >> > >> at least 1 NVMe. Then I would recommend that you get at least one
> >> > >> NVMe. It doesn't have to be huge, but if you can put at least
> your OS
> >> > >> on the NVMe, it will make your whole machine feel 50 times faster
> than
> >> > >> if you keep using a 10 year old hard drive.... Trust me, it will be
> >> > >> worth every cent to get it.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I would also recommend getting an AMD machine right now. You can
> get a
> >> > >> whole lot more for your money right now with AMD.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> BTW What's the price range you are looking at spending?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Brian Cluff
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 7/17/20 11:11 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >> > >>> I think I figured out what I want to do..... I'm going to buy a
> >> > >>> chassis, motherboard, CPU, and power supply and then frankenstein
> the
> >> > >>> hard drive, the wireless card, and the video card from the old
> machine
> >> > >>> (got to do this as cheaply as I can). What else could I
> frankenstein?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:25 PM Michael <>
> wrote:
> >> > >>>> Wellp, I am going to do something I never have done before.....
> I'm
> >> > >>>> going to get a new computer. Well I think I'll have one put
> >> > >>>> together.... I'll put it together. Where would go to get a
> chassis and
> >> > >>>> motherboard then I'll put all of the other guts in. Is such an
> animal
> >> > >>>> in existence?I thought of another NUC but they aren't like what
> they
> >> > >>>> were. Should I wait until black Friday and get a windows machine
> in the sales?
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> --
> >> > >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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