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Author: Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
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CC: Michael Butash
Subject: Re: zoom and teams patches
> Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI?

Right, not in my 20-some years around Cisco. Why I don't do much Cisco
anymore.

Webex finally pulled its head from it's bung a few years back to figure out
how to do screen sharing AND remote control even on linux, and so far for
me, is the only other decent/viable conferencing suite outside zoom. I use
it with a few customers regularly. I've read WebEx uses the same kinds of
"exploiting" the os to launch itself with windows/mac, so same
shenanigans. I'd be really interested in seeing someone rip it apart for a
security audit.

Before Zoom and WebEx figured it out, I was using UberConference for years,
they were the original I found that could offer sharing, but never offered
remote control which is almost necessary in my line of work. I really
liked the service and company, but no remote control and some other quirks
(no firefox support a big one) drove me off to zoom finally.

M$ Teams sharing is wonky at best and doesn't allow remote control.
Microsoft basically throws in the service with o365, so many companies are
using it by default, and it always is painful. They even added a linux
client, but it was poop and doesn't allow for multiple orgs ala slack, or
about any other chat client known to man. Last time I tried it a few
months back, it also began crushing my system's cpu's - quality microsoft,
thanks for caring about us linux people with your half-assed software.

GotoMeeting still doesn't know what linux is or cares I think, luckily no
one seems to use them anymore.

-mb


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:08 PM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss <
> wrote:

> Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI?
>
> Mac
>
> der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote on 4/28/20 10:40 PM:
>
> Am 28. Apr, 2020 schwätzte Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss so:
>
> moin moin,
>
> That's not entirely true, I use Webex on Linux, including sharing my
> screen,
>
>
> Yeah, in the end it worked with Firefox. I had to allow some JavaScript,
> but no completely 3rd party stuff.
>
> I also didn't need to create an account for authentication. The webex join
> meeting UI sucks pretty badly.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
> nearly every day for work. It is true that there's no native client,
> though, but the workaround is to use Chrome or a Chrome-based browser (in
> my case, Chromium), and Webex is able to use the built-in screen sharing
> functionality of Chrome to share your screen. The only caveat I've found is
> that you must use Xorg, not Wayland, as Chromium doesn't appear to support
> screen capture on Wayland.
>
>
> On 2020-04-28 15:20, Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>
> Webex still does not have a Linux client (not even via web), so it is
> a no go for me except on my phone, and I can't teach class with a
> phone. So still using Zoom.
> Phil W
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:32 AM der.hans via PLUG-discuss
> <> <>
> wrote:
>
> moin moin,
>
> I'll be posting something longer and positive about Big Blue Button
> (
> hopefully today ), but at this point we're probably all stuck using
> a
> variety of tools that others get to choose for us.
>
> Zoom fixed their waiting room security hole and Microsoft is still
> learning how to safely display images.
>
> Both were fixed server side, so the holes should be gone.
>
> https://citizenlab.ca/2020/04/zooms-waiting-room-vulnerability/
>
>
>
> https://www.cyberark.com/threat-research-blog/beware-of-the-gif-account-takeover-vulnerability-in-microsoft-teams/
>
>
> Anyone know the state of webex? That's popped up for me due to the
> recurring zoom issues.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
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