Re: Ubuntu 18.04 on (Really) Old HP Proliant

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Author: Michael Butash
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Subject: Re: Ubuntu 18.04 on (Really) Old HP Proliant
Last time I tried WSL was with getting this laptop a few years ago. As a
network guy, I sort of just sat there stunned that the frigging thing
couldn't network. Why the hell would you make a linux emulation layer that
couldn't network? Is this still Ballmer-hate?

What the hell is good in this day and age without networking? I don't see
how they even shipped it as a thing without network support.

This and other major things like I said visual lag in the gui, with
up-to-date os, drivers, etc shipped from dell, was utter shite, and just
angered me. It was graphically unusable to me. I gave windoze a solid 2
weeks as a trial, just to see, and it was garbage to try and be
productive. It really didn't like when I was layer on VM's in vbox, which
usually I have 5-8 vm's at a time running in my main system, and it fell
apart.

People ask why I bother with linux. Because windoze can't do the things I
do in linux, like run 10 vm's of different os's and still game on steam.
I've ran linux on a desktop as my main rig since 2006, as well as dealing
with entirely windoze enterprise worlds, so I like to think I have some
knowledge of this.

-mb


On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:44 AM Stephen Partington <>
wrote:

> well microsoft has made good improvements with WSL and you can do some
> neat things like that
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 8:27 AM Michael Butash <> wrote:
>
>> Upgrading to 18.04 broke like everything for me (kde, wm, graphics
>> drivers), it's what single-handedly drove me to arch, so ymmv.
>>
>> My experience with arch hasn't been much better of late, so take it for
>> what you will. Arch updates blew up my desktop, and my laptop I'm afraid
>> to reboot as my last working device. If I didn't hate windoze so much, I
>> might actually try it again, but it's performance on my xps15 was absolute
>> shite with the 4k display. Like mouse lag randomly just to screw with me
>> and slow down everything working.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 9:13 PM Stephen Partington <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is most definitely 64 bit. I had 64 bit 16.04 running like a champ
>>> until the 18.04 upgrade was done.
>>>
>>> It also ran vmware 6.7 well also.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019, 9:02 PM Thomas Scott <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know I had a legacy install on a Proliant I supported that was
>>>> installed upside down and burnt out it's drives after a few years
>>>> (surprised it lasted that long). When I came on-site to reinstall it, I
>>>> tried to install 16.04 since I already had the install media on me, I
>>>> couldn't as it had issues with the RAID array controller. I had to roll
>>>> back to 14.04 and then upgrade it to maintain compatibility. I had a
>>>> similar issue with CentOS6/7 a bout a year ago as well, also on HP servers.
>>>> In my experience, both times it was the RAID controller.
>>>>
>>>> <https://about.me/thomas.scott?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=edit_panel&utm_content=thumb>
>>>> Thomas Scott
>>>> about.me/thomas.scott
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>>>> <http://about.me/thomas.scott>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 9:47 PM Todd Cole <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I suspect it may be 32Bit computer but it should give you a i386
>>>>> hardware error during installation.
>>>>> while 18.04 is only 64 bit you can use the net install at
>>>>> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/bionic/
>>>>> it has a community supported 32 bit version available
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 12:24 PM Stephen Partington <
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an older Proliant server I am trying to make use of at home.
>>>>>> The hardware is fully functional, and aside from needing some spare drive
>>>>>> sleds, It is ready to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, I cannot run 18.04 on the server and I suspect it is related
>>>>>> to changes in the kernel and I am trying to map those.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Architecture is Dual Opteron quad-core Processors and DDR2 ECC
>>>>>> Registered memory. I think it is a DL 365 Gen 1 (would have to look to make
>>>>>> sure)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone have thoughts on how I could gracefully get this
>>>>>> hardware to a current kernel?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you
>>>>>> from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen
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>
> Stephen
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