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Author: Donald Mac McCarthy
Date:  
To: Main PLUG discussion list, Michael
Subject: Re: computer reboots on its own
Michael,
  My bad. It is lm-sensors. You have to run a sensors-detect (as root)
first. Then you can use sensors.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/53762/how-to-use-lm-sensors

Mac

Michael wrote on 11/1/19 4:24 PM:
> where is lmsensors. my websearch says it is lm-sensors and at says
> lm-sensors is the most recent version but neither lmsensors nor
> lm-sensors runs.
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 7:04 PM Michael <
> <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the tip! No fixing that:( Replace computer.
>     You know.... it has been a while since a reboot.

>
>     On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 7:01 PM Donald Mac McCarthy
>     < <mailto:mac@oscontext.com>> wrote:

>
>         Well,
>           lmsensors will allow you too look at the temp of your CPU.
>         If you are idling and the temp is say 30 degrees normally, and
>         all the sudden you see the temp spike to 70 and a reboot
>         happens, check your heatsink. If the proc is really 70c, you
>         should not be able to get close to your heatsink without
>         feeling heat. If you have an IR thermometer, point that at you
>         heatsink and take a temp reading. If it is above ~50, you may
>         have a real heat issue. If it is not, you may have a sensor on
>         the board or cpu that went bad as reporting a bad temp causing
>         a reboot/shutdown because of thermal emergency.

>
>         Mac

>
>         Michael wrote on 11/1/19 3:15 PM:
>>         Interesting. So how do I check the sensor? How do I fix it?

>>
>>         On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 12:27 AM Donald Mac McCarthy
>>         < <mailto:mac@oscontext.com>> wrote:

>>
>>             It is starting to sound like a thermal issue. And
>>             possibly not an actual thermal issue, but a sensor issue.

>>
>>             Mac

>>
>>             Michael wrote on 10/25/19 7:24 PM:
>>>             No, I didn't. Oh well....

>>>
>>>             On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 7:25 PM Donald Mac McCarthy
>>>             < <mailto:mac@oscontext.com>> wrote:

>>>
>>>                 Mike, I am sorry that I din not get you a quick
>>>                 reply. I have been traveling a lot and was not
>>>                 frequently checking my plug folders. Did you figure
>>>                 this one out. I see there was some follow-up
>>>                 discussion with the rest of the list.

>>>
>>>                 Best,
>>>                 Mac

>>>
>>>                 Michael wrote on 10/19/19 4:20 PM:
>>>>                 apparently some guy had a similar problem and this
>>>>                 is what he said:
>>>>                 This command shows that my system came up with a
>>>>                 new kernel. Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit. 3.2.0-63 after
>>>>                 reboot, 3.2.0-61 before
>>>>                 – Antonios Hadjigeorgalis May 26 '14 at 14:20
>>>>                 4
>>>>                 This led me to checking
>>>>                 etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades I had set
>>>>                 Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot "true"; I
>>>>                 changed it back to the default setting of false.
>>>>                 – Antonios Hadjigeorgalis May 26 '14 at 15:31

>>>>
>>>>                 found- https://askubuntu.com/questions/202335/ ...
>>>>                 om-reboots
>>>>                 <https://askubuntu.com/questions/202335/how-can-i-track-the-cause-of-random-reboots>
>>>>                 but there was no 'unattended upgrades' line in
>>>>                 /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/

>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:04 AM Michael
>>>>                 < <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>>
>>>>                     darn....... it just rebooted on its own.
>>>>                     lovely:( well, it was fixed for fourteen days
>>>>                     at least.

>>>>
>>>>                     On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 1:07 PM Michael
>>>>                     < <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>>
>>>>                         Ok, thanks. 

>>>>
>>>>                         On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 11:26 PM Donald Mac
>>>>                         McCarthy <
>>>>                         <mailto:mac@oscontext.com>> wrote:

>>>>
>>>>                             CLI CDRW is not something that I have
>>>>                             done - I can't remember the burner
>>>>                             software I used. I told it the ISO and
>>>>                             it burned and closed the disc.  I am
>>>>                             travelling at the moment, so when I get
>>>>                             home I will look.  As for the
>>>>                             nomenclature of the device, in RHEL
>>>>                             land it is usually labelled as
>>>>                             /dev/cdrom{0-9}

>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                             Mac
>>>>                             Michael wrote on 10/5/19 6:54 PM:
>>>>>                             also what is the rw listed as?
>>>>>                             /dev/sdc? if that is so I would issue
>>>>>                             the command 'sudo dd
>>>>>                             if=memtest86-usb.img of=/dev/sdc'....
>>>>>                             right?

>>>>>
>>>>>                             On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 9:34 PM Michael
>>>>>                             <
>>>>>                             <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>>                                 well.... it seems blowing it fixed
>>>>>                                 it. thank goodness!  my cdrom is
>>>>>                                 not working and I don't recall if
>>>>>                                 it boots to the USBCDRW. I seem to
>>>>>                                 remember that it was booting
>>>>>                                 from a thumb drive last year (if I
>>>>>                                 remember correctly).... or was it
>>>>>                                 the USBCDRW.... hmmmmm..... hey
>>>>>                                 ET... how do I write the image to 
>>>>>                                 the usbcdrw?

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                                 On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 11:12 PM
>>>>>                                 Donald Mac McCarthy
>>>>>                                 <
>>>>>                                 <mailto:mac@oscontext.com>> wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>>                                     I have had that happen before
>>>>>                                     when a BIOS only partially
>>>>>                                     supports boot from USB. Have
>>>>>                                     you booted from USB on that
>>>>>                                     system before?

>>>>>
>>>>>                                     Do you have a CD you could
>>>>>                                     burn the iso to and try. That
>>>>>                                     sounds so... old fashioned,
>>>>>                                     but I have a couple of 10 yr
>>>>>                                     old dell workstations that
>>>>>                                     don't properly USB boot that I
>>>>>                                     used before I discovered I
>>>>>                                     could replace them with a
>>>>>                                     couple of RasPis.

>>>>>
>>>>>                                     Mac

>>>>>
>>>>>                                     Michael wrote on 10/3/19 3:47 PM:
>>>>>>                                      Yepers.... just notes.

>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                     On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 12:03
>>>>>>                                     PM Stephen Partington
>>>>>>                                     <
>>>>>>                                     <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>                                     wrote:

>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                         No, just notes.  at least
>>>>>>                                         from the looks of them.

>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                         On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at
>>>>>>                                         8:05 AM Bob Elzer
>>>>>>                                         <
>>>>>>                                         <mailto:bob.elzer@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>                                         wrote:

>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                             Are those your
>>>>>>                                             passwords on the
>>>>>>                                             sticky notes?

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                             On Wed, Oct 2, 2019,
>>>>>>                                             4:53 PM Michael
>>>>>>                                             <
>>>>>>                                             <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>                                             wrote:

>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                                 what a mess my
>>>>>>                                                 computer desk is

>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                                 On Wed, Oct 2,
>>>>>>                                                 2019 at 7:50 PM
>>>>>>                                                 Michael
>>>>>>                                                 <
>>>>>>                                                 <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>                                                 wrote:

>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                                     20191002_193516_01.jpg

>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                                     On Wed, Oct
>>>>>>                                                     2, 2019 at
>>>>>>                                                     4:36 PM
>>>>>>                                                     <
>>>>>>                                                     <mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com>>
>>>>>>                                                     wrote:

>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                                         > what do
>>>>>>                                                         you
>>>>>>                                                         advise I
>>>>>>                                                         do...
>>>>>>                                                         Call Geek
>>>>>>                                                         Squad?   8)

>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                                         Can you
>>>>>>                                                         send me a
>>>>>>                                                         picture
>>>>>>                                                         of the
>>>>>>                                                         screen
>>>>>>                                                         you get?
>>>>>>                                                         Memetest
>>>>>>                                                         is (or
>>>>>>                                                         was)
>>>>>>                                                         prtty
>>>>>>                                                         straight
>>>>>>                                                         forward.
>>>>>>                                                         Even *I*
>>>>>>                                                         could use
>>>>>>                                                         it!   ;-)
>>>>>>                                                         ET

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                                         Michael
>>>>>>                                                         writes:

>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                                         >  Okay e
>>>>>>                                                         t I
>>>>>>                                                         bought a
>>>>>>                                                         USB drive
>>>>>>                                                         and ran
>>>>>>                                                         the
>>>>>>                                                         command 2
>>>>>>                                                         put the
>>>>>>                                                         memtest on it
>>>>>>                                                         > but
>>>>>>                                                         when I
>>>>>>                                                         boot it
>>>>>>                                                         gets to
>>>>>>                                                         verifying
>>>>>>                                                         DMI pool
>>>>>>                                                         and just
>>>>>>                                                         sits .
>>>>>>                                                         I've had a
>>>>>>                                                         > going
>>>>>>                                                         for about
>>>>>>                                                         15
>>>>>>                                                         minutes
>>>>>>                                                         and
>>>>>>                                                         nothing's
>>>>>>                                                         happened
>>>>>>                                                         what do
>>>>>>                                                         you
>>>>>>                                                         advise I do
>>>>>>                                                         >
>>>>>>                                                         > On Tue,
>>>>>>                                                         Oct 1,
>>>>>>                                                         2019,
>>>>>>                                                         6:38 AM
>>>>>>                                                         <
>>>>>>                                                         <mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com>>
>>>>>>                                                         wrote:

>>>>>>                                                         >
>>>>>>                                                         >> You
>>>>>>                                                         only need
>>>>>>                                                         500MG.
>>>>>>                                                         >> A USB
>>>>>>                                                         HD that
>>>>>>                                                         size will
>>>>>>                                                         be
>>>>>>                                                         cheaper
>>>>>>                                                         than the
>>>>>>                                                         can of air.
>>>>>>                                                         >> Buy
>>>>>>                                                         one too!
>>>>>>                                                         >> ET

>>>>>>                                                         >>

>>>>>>                                                         >>

>>>>>>                                                         >>
>>>>>>                                                         Michael
>>>>>>                                                         writes:

>>>>>>                                                         >>
>>>>>>                                                         >> > all
>>>>>>                                                         the fans
>>>>>>                                                         are
>>>>>>                                                         working.
>>>>>>                                                         I'll try
>>>>>>                                                         the
>>>>>>                                                         memtest....
>>>>>>                                                         I don't
>>>>>>                                                         have a spare
>>>>>>                                                         >> usb

>>>>>>                                                         >> >
>>>>>>                                                         drive
>>>>>>                                                         large
>>>>>>                                                         enough.....
>>>>>>                                                         >> > $
>>>>>>                                                         sudo dd
>>>>>>                                                         if=memtest86-usb.img
>>>>>>                                                         of=/dev/sdc
>>>>>>                                                         >> > dd:
>>>>>>                                                         writing
>>>>>>                                                         to
>>>>>>                                                         '/dev/sdc':
>>>>>>                                                         No space
>>>>>>                                                         left on
>>>>>>                                                         device

>>>>>>                                                         >> >
>>>>>>                                                         128001+0
>>>>>>                                                         records in

>>>>>>                                                         >> >
>>>>>>                                                         128000+0
>>>>>>                                                         records out

>>>>>>                                                         >> >
>>>>>>                                                         65536000
>>>>>>                                                         bytes (66
>>>>>>                                                         MB, 62
>>>>>>                                                         MiB)
>>>>>>                                                         copied,
>>>>>>                                                         21.5638
>>>>>>                                                         s, 3.0 MB/s

>>>>>>                                                         >> >
>>>>>>                                                         bmike1@MikesBeast:/tmp$
>>>>>>                                                         >> > I'll
>>>>>>                                                         take care
>>>>>>                                                         of it
>>>>>>                                                         tomorrow

>>>>>>                                                         >> >

>>>>>>                                                         >> >
>>>>>>                                                         >> > On
>>>>>>                                                         Mon, Sep
>>>>>>                                                         30, 2019
>>>>>>                                                         at 1:48
>>>>>>                                                         PM
>>>>>>                                                         <
>>>>>>                                                         <mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com>>
>>>>>>                                                         wrote:

>>>>>>                                                         >> >
>>>>>>                                                         >> >> I
>>>>>>                                                         agree
>>>>>>                                                         that heat
>>>>>>                                                         is a big
>>>>>>                                                         suspect,
>>>>>>                                                         but it
>>>>>>                                                         could
>>>>>>                                                         also be
>>>>>>                                                         some creative
>>>>>>                                                         >> >> video

>>>>>>                                                         >> >>
>>>>>>                                                         driver or
>>>>>>                                                         a bad memory.

>>>>>>                                                         >> >>
>>>>>>                                                         Give
>>>>>>                                                         memtest a
>>>>>>                                                         try:

>>>>>>                                                         >> >>
>>>>>>                                                         https://www.memtest86.com/downloads/memtest86-usb.zip
>>>>>>                                                         >> >> ET

>>>>>>                                                         >> >>

>>>>>>                                                         >> >>

>>>>>>                                                         >> >>
>>>>>>                                                         Matthew
>>>>>>                                                         Crews writes:

>>>>>>                                                         >> >>

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >
>>>>>>                                                         On
>>>>>>                                                         9/28/19
>>>>>>                                                         4:31 PM,
>>>>>>                                                         Michael
>>>>>>                                                         wrote:

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >>
>>>>>>                                                         Thank you
>>>>>>                                                         so much
>>>>>>                                                         for the
>>>>>>                                                         help I
>>>>>>                                                         really
>>>>>>                                                         truly
>>>>>>                                                         appreciate
>>>>>>                                                         it.

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >
>>>>>>                                                         No
>>>>>>                                                         problem,
>>>>>>                                                         its what
>>>>>>                                                         we are
>>>>>>                                                         here for.

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >
>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >> 
>>>>>>                                                            Does
>>>>>>                                                         it reboot
>>>>>>                                                         while you
>>>>>>                                                         are using
>>>>>>                                                         it? Are
>>>>>>                                                         you using
>>>>>>                                                         very
>>>>>>                                                         >> intensive
>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >> 
>>>>>>                                                          
>>>>>>                                                          applications
>>>>>>                                                         on it, or
>>>>>>                                                         very
>>>>>>                                                         not-intensive
>>>>>>                                                         applications?

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >>

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >>

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >>
>>>>>>                                                         So far it
>>>>>>                                                         has only
>>>>>>                                                         only
>>>>>>                                                         reboot.
>>>>>>                                                         after I
>>>>>>                                                         load
>>>>>>                                                         Chrome.
>>>>>>                                                         And it
>>>>>>                                                         doesn't

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >>
>>>>>>                                                         happen
>>>>>>                                                         all the
>>>>>>                                                         time 
>>>>>>                                                         usually
>>>>>>                                                         it will
>>>>>>                                                         load the
>>>>>>                                                         Chrome
>>>>>>                                                         and it will
>>>>>>                                                         >> reboot

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >>
>>>>>>                                                         then open
>>>>>>                                                         it again
>>>>>>                                                         and then
>>>>>>                                                         it will
>>>>>>                                                         be fine.

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >
>>>>>>                                                         Chrome is
>>>>>>                                                         notoriously
>>>>>>                                                         resource
>>>>>>                                                         intensive.
>>>>>>                                                         Maybe
>>>>>>                                                         give
>>>>>>                                                         Chromium or
>>>>>>                                                         >> Firefox
>>>>>>                                                         >> >> > a
>>>>>>                                                         try.

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >
>>>>>>                                                         But based
>>>>>>                                                         on that
>>>>>>                                                         answer
>>>>>>                                                         I'm
>>>>>>                                                         leaning
>>>>>>                                                         towards a
>>>>>>                                                         fan
>>>>>>                                                         failure
>>>>>>                                                         first. As
>>>>>>                                                         >> you

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >
>>>>>>                                                         said you
>>>>>>                                                         are
>>>>>>                                                         currently
>>>>>>                                                         in Miami,
>>>>>>                                                         so when
>>>>>>                                                         you get
>>>>>>                                                         back
>>>>>>                                                         definitely
>>>>>>                                                         check
>>>>>>                                                         >> >> that.

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >
>>>>>>                                                         Could
>>>>>>                                                         also be
>>>>>>                                                         simple
>>>>>>                                                         dust
>>>>>>                                                         accumulation,
>>>>>>                                                         something
>>>>>>                                                         a can of
>>>>>>                                                         air can
>>>>>>                                                         >> fix.

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >
>>>>>>                                                         That is
>>>>>>                                                         something
>>>>>>                                                         that is
>>>>>>                                                         obvious
>>>>>>                                                         to see
>>>>>>                                                         when you
>>>>>>                                                         look.

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >
>>>>>>                                                         There are
>>>>>>                                                         a few
>>>>>>                                                         other
>>>>>>                                                         possible
>>>>>>                                                         things to
>>>>>>                                                         check,
>>>>>>                                                         but lets
>>>>>>                                                         rule out the

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >
>>>>>>                                                         simple
>>>>>>                                                         stuff
>>>>>>                                                         first
>>>>>>                                                         before we
>>>>>>                                                         dive deeper.

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >
>>>>>>                                                         >> >> > -Matt

>>>>>>                                                         >> >> >

>>>>>>                                                         >> >>
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