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Author: Seabass
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Subject: Re: Ansible laptop management
Yeah, I use it for configuring my Debian installs.
I don't use it much these days, but it is in my gitlab repo.
I appreciate the method of learning it, as that is what I did, but what were you wondering about it?

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> Back when I was in high school in the late 80s/early 90s we had a few computers with a grey-scale monitor that could be rotated between landscape and portrait orientation. Do you know what happened when we'd do that? You'd hear the clack of a mechanical orientation sensor, the screen would momentarily blank, and then the orientation of the display would automatically update. Which isn't a shock to anyone who has used late model PDAs and just about every tablet and smart phone. How is it that today, when all but the cheapest desktop monitor stands allow you to rotate the monitor, we have to manually tell the computer we've rotated the monitor?
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> Okay, yes, this is because back then that was a premium and pricey monitor which is why only the vo-tech computer class had even two of them in the entire school (we also had an analog camera that recorded to disk, not a Kodak disc film camera but an SLR camera which used a camcorder sensor and recorded single frames of analog NTSC to magnetic 2 or maybe they were 2.5 inch disks. The drive for these disks was as large as the Mac it was plugged into). So throwing a sensor onto the monitor wasn't that expensive when we were already getting charged a premium for it. But would it kill them to include it on the less than bargain basement monitors today? Although now I'm wondering if DisplayPort/DVI/etc even have a way in their standards to pass along orientation information or if you'd need a separate connection, a quick googling isn't finding anything promising about that.
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> Anyway, just a quick rant to get that out. I do in fact feel better having done so.
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> Anyone here using some form of configuration management (Ansible, Chef, Saltstack, etc) for their personal computers? I recently did a clean OS install on my carry-around laptop and I decided to use that as an excuse to start using ansible (so far only to tell apt to install vim and tmux if they aren't already installed). While the playbooks are currently very bare bones I'm planning to build on them as time goes by using this as a way to build up actual working knowledge and not just read-tutorials-knowledge of it.
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> A friend who is totally non-technical wants to move their WordPress from the current registry and hosting service, and is looking for is good providers of registry and hosting, with the most honest reputations within a reasonable cost.
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> A few years ago I worked with NameCheap, and have heard fairly good stories.
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> I’ve heard some registrars are in a better chance to negotiate transfer of a name which may be owned by the current registrar.
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> I’m pretty sure my friend was spoon-fed the setup with a single phone call, and might find a change too complicated. I am personally free of [largest-of-local-providers], so my bias is towards running away from [that], but I don’t really know what choices are “out there” for innocent button-pressing clients.
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> Thanks for any advice,
> Victor Odhner
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> Sadly a lot of those "button-pressing" hosting services are going to cost a
> bit more money vs firing up a instance on AWS or Droplet. Plus if all your
> friend needs is Wordpress and email. What's wrong with firing up an EC2
> instance for like 10/20 bucks a month and Namecheap for the DNS? Heck you
> can get an email provider that does the heavy lifting for 5 bucks a month
> if email is a huge concern.
>
> With tons of migration tools for MySQL and rsync, migration should be a
> breeze if you know what you are doing. Let me know if I'm missing something
> here.
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> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 12:43 PM Victor Odhner <> wrote:
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>> A friend who is totally non-technical wants to move their WordPress from
>> the current registry and hosting service, and is looking for is good
>> providers of registry and hosting, with the most honest reputations within
>> a reasonable cost.
>>
>> A few years ago I worked with NameCheap, and have heard fairly good
>> stories.
>>
>> I’ve heard some registrars are in a better chance to negotiate transfer of
>> a name which may be owned by the current registrar.
>>
>> I’m pretty sure my friend was spoon-fed the setup with a single phone
>> call, and might find a change too complicated. I am personally free of [
>> *largest-of-local-providers*], so my bias is towards running away from [
>> *that*], but I don’t really know what choices are “out there” for
>> innocent button-pressing clients.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice,
>> Victor Odhner
>>
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> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:38:15 -0700
> From: Bob Elzer <>
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> Google domains is $12 a year.
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> No extra fees. You can even hide your info for Free.
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> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 12:51 PM Andrew McRobb <> wrote:
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>> Sadly a lot of those "button-pressing" hosting services are going to cost
>> a bit more money vs firing up a instance on AWS or Droplet. Plus if all
>> your friend needs is Wordpress and email. What's wrong with firing up an
>> EC2 instance for like 10/20 bucks a month and Namecheap for the DNS? Heck
>> you can get an email provider that does the heavy lifting for 5 bucks a
>> month if email is a huge concern.
>>
>> With tons of migration tools for MySQL and rsync, migration should be a
>> breeze if you know what you are doing. Let me know if I'm missing something
>> here.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 12:43 PM Victor Odhner <> wrote:
>>
>>> A friend who is totally non-technical wants to move their WordPress from
>>> the current registry and hosting service, and is looking for is good
>>> providers of registry and hosting, with the most honest reputations within
>>> a reasonable cost.
>>>
>>> A few years ago I worked with NameCheap, and have heard fairly good
>>> stories.
>>>
>>> I’ve heard some registrars are in a better chance to negotiate transfer
>>> of a name which may be owned by the current registrar.
>>>
>>> I’m pretty sure my friend was spoon-fed the setup with a single phone
>>> call, and might find a change too complicated. I am personally free of [
>>> *largest-of-local-providers*], so my bias is towards running away from [
>>> *that*], but I don’t really know what choices are “out there” for
>>> innocent button-pressing clients.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any advice,
>>> Victor Odhner
>>>
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> From: Aaron Jones <>
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> I manage like 10 thinkpads using ansible. They all run Manjaro. Why?
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>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Steven - <> wrote:
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>> Anyone here using some form of configuration management (Ansible, Chef, Saltstack, etc) for their personal computers? I recently did a clean OS install on my carry-around laptop and I decided to use that as an excuse to start using ansible (so far only to tell apt to install vim and tmux if they aren't already installed). While the playbooks are currently very bare bones I'm planning to build on them as time goes by using this as a way to build up actual working knowledge and not just read-tutorials-knowledge of it.
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> I Ran into this with a Windows 2016 Guest running on Cent OS 7 qemu/KVM.
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> you need to install the signed drivers to the VMs. For windows VMs check
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> https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/WindowsGuestDrivers/Download_Drivers
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> James C.
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> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 08:34:16 +0000 (UTC)
> From: David Schwartz <>
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> I use a company local to Phoenix as my primary registrar, NameSilo.
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> For hosting, I use Eleven2.
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> In general, I don’t recommend using the same for both.
>
> I used NameCheap, and they’re owned by the same borg entity that owns HostGator and tons of other hosting providers. But I’ve used them for years for name registrations.
>
> The thing I like about NameSilo is they give you a domain name Privacy option for FREE forever. NameCheap used to be for one year, but they may have changed. GoDaddy charges an absurd amount for it starting from the get-go.
>
> “Honesty” is relative in the domain world. They all have their policies and they all enforce their polices. But some are far worse than others.
>
> The “other” big registrar in Phx has a very “honest” bunch of policies that railroad you into spending a HUGE amount if you forget to renew your domain on-time. NameSilo and NameCheap are far more forgiving, and give you 30 days to renew your domain at the regular renewal rate. They’re all quite “honest” about it, as long as you read their TOS and pay close attention to what’s there.
>
> There’s also an area that isn’t talked about much, and I don’t really even know what to call it. But you might think that every cPanel / WHM hosting provider is the same, since they run the same hosting software. I’ve found that’s not true. Nor is it “dishonest”, either.
>
> There are several dozen settings that can be enabled or disabled on cPanel / WHM installations, and there are various plugins that the host can also include if they want.
>
> The net effect is, there are some such providers that I’d say tend strongly towards the “paranoid” side of the scale, while others bend the other way.
>
> NameCheap is a very “paranoid” host. If you want maximum security against hackers and invaders, you’ll like them. They get that distinction because they have a habit of disabling all sorts of UI options that have even the slightest whiff of something a hacker could use to get into your hosting account.
>
> I put up with this for a few months, and then moved to Eleven2, who is far more relaxed about things.
>
> That said, you can always get a VPS, then install cPanel / WHM or any other control panel, and tweak it however you like.
>
> Personally, I have a “shared reseller” type hosting account (ie, one that includes WHM) at Eleven2. Shared hosting tends to overload the servers after a while, but they usually don’t put as many “reseller” accounts on a host as regular (single cPanel) accounts — maybe by a factor of 10-to-1 or more — so they don’t fill up as fast.
>
> But if your shared hosting account starts to slow down, and if you’ve been there for a while, ask to have it moved to a newer server. That’s very easy to do with cPanel accounts, and the places I’ve been tend to be fairly accommodating if only because they’d rather not lose you to another host just because they don’t want to spend 5 minutes moving your account.
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Victor Odhner <> wrote:
>>
>> A friend who is totally non-technical wants to move their WordPress from the current registry and hosting service, and is looking for is good providers of registry and hosting, with the most honest reputations within a reasonable cost.
>>
>> A few years ago I worked with NameCheap, and have heard fairly good stories.
>>
>> I’ve heard some registrars are in a better chance to negotiate transfer of a name which may be owned by the current registrar.
>>
>> I’m pretty sure my friend was spoon-fed the setup with a single phone call, and might find a change too complicated. I am personally free of [largest-of-local-providers], so my bias is towards running away from [that], but I don’t really know what choices are “out there” for innocent button-pressing clients.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice,
>> Victor Odhner
>>
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> I've been using GoDaddy for about 10 years now, and never had a problem.
> They have dedicated WordPress hosting.
>
> Thanks,
> Alexander
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> Sent from my Galaxy S10+
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> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 11:37 Victor Odhner <> wrote:
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>> A friend who is totally non-technical wants to move their WordPress from
>> the current registry and hosting service, and is looking for is good
>> providers of registry and hosting, with the most honest reputations within
>> a reasonable cost.
>>
>> A few years ago I worked with NameCheap, and have heard fairly good
>> stories.
>>
>> I’ve heard some registrars are in a better chance to negotiate transfer of
>> a name which may be owned by the current registrar.
>>
>> I’m pretty sure my friend was spoon-fed the setup with a single phone
>> call, and might find a change too complicated. I am personally free of [
>> *largest-of-local-providers*], so my bias is towards running away from [
>> *that*], but I don’t really know what choices are “out there” for
>> innocent button-pressing clients.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice,
>> Victor Odhner
>>
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>> On Aug 31, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Victor Odhner <> wrote:
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>> I’ve heard some registrars are in a better chance to negotiate transfer of a name which may be owned by the current registrar.
>>
>
> The process at most registrars is completely automated. You unlock your domain and request a transfer code; go to the destination registrar and initiate a transfer, enter the transfer code, and wait. You’ll get an email from the source registrar saying a transfer was initiated and you need to approve it; if you don’t approve it within some time-frame, it is cancelled, and if you do, it usually finalizes within minutes.
>
> Some registrars, however, like to introduce delays and force you to wait for the maximium amount of time they can (a week or so) before finalizing things, just because they’re such nice folks and put “customer service” as their top priority.
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> -David Schwartz
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