Re: Topic split. Arch on laptops.

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Author: Michael Butash
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Topic split. Arch on laptops.
The ubuntu issue making me switch with vitriol is somewhat different. I
simply can't switch to another DE now under ubuntu, and I hate what ubuntu
did to gnome3. Any other DE but ubuntu's simply crashes and dumps me back
to login. No idea why, and oddly I can't find much about it from others.
It was merely impetus to evacuate ubuntu further, but like crack I can't
seem to break free.

I ran 16.04 before on my xps15. Old kernels worked ok with bumblebee, but
sucked at everything else, including my dell thunderbolt/usb3 dock. I'd
get random network timeouts, the usb bus would just sorta die randomly.
Lovely feature, really.

Upgrading it fixed TB3, but fubar'd bumblebee/gpu interaction, and powertop
just sorta said I was causing planetary doom with consumption all the
time. It worked, but used power like crazy. I'd be lucky to get an hour
of batter life, mostly due to the stupid intel vs. nvidia vs. bumblebee
issues on it. Stable network and function vs. heat - I'll take it. I was
hoping moving to arch they might have fixed some of this stupidity ubuntu
could obviously never figure out.

Why do I hate 18.04? Other than above gpu issues, I upgrade to find my
right click on the touchpad not working, a distinct lack of a minimize
button on my windows, and various things that simply didn't work out of box
I needed to find workarounds for. Upgrading out of sheer morbid curiosity
to 18.10 didn't fix anything, and in fact made most worse. I just hate
ubuntu now, and would really like to never deal with it again.

I need to make a decent arch linux vm image I can clone and reuse, as
ubuntu is even more annoying with failed upgrades as a server. I really
hate having to rebuild everything every few years, but it does keep me in
practice.

-mb


On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:00 PM Stephen Partington <>
wrote:

> To follow up Mike's Conversation earlier about arch on a laptop I am
> actually curious about the issue you had.
>
> I have had really good success with arch on laptops lately. And with the
> release of Ubuntu 18.04 Ubuntu has been really amenable.
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