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Author: Carruth, Rusty
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Yeah, it’s a security feature - you (usually) have to be root to mount stuff, unless automount happens to work for the situation you’re in.

And I agree, if it works, don’t fix it.

Rusty


From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2019 11:11 AM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Plug

thanks buddy:)

On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 1:09 PM Eric Oyen <<mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com>> wrote:
Not that I can think of off hand. This looks like a security feature to me. Since it works, I wouldn’t worry about it much.

-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild. Security Infrastructure Dept.



On Feb 4, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Michael <<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:

no. I'll just run it with sudo. or is there a specific reason for that?

On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 11:22 AM Eric Oyen <<mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com>> wrote:
Hmmmm. Have you got a sodo’ers file in /etc? You might have to add your user account there. Also, it probably wouldn’t hurt to add your account to the rsync group.

-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Unix and other things Dept.



On Feb 4, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Michael <<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:

I also have to sudo it

On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 10:53 AM Eric Oyen <<mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com>> wrote:
Well, if it works, leave it alone. :)

-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Hands Off Dept.



On Feb 3, 2019, at 6:32 AM, Michael <<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:

I ran the commands. I ran rsync last night and now I open the..... After investigatin furthrt I have discovered it appended a '1' to Seagate. I added a '1' and it is backing up as I type. I don't like having the 1 on the end but I don't like messing with it any longer!

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 6:54 PM Eric Oyen <<mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com>> wrote:
Ok,
Well, make sure nothing has exclusive use on that drive.
In terminal issue the following commands:
umount /dev/sdx (whatever the number is for that drive/fs)
If there is more than one partition on that drive, unmount them as well.
Then, to erase the drive, I use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx (this will blow away all partition map info, boot sector and the like)
Lastly:
mkfs.ext3
/dev/sdx (you can replace the .ext3 with other FS types if you prefer)
When done, mount the FS as normal and you should be good to go.

-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Drive recyclers Dept.


On Jan 31, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Michael <<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:

I am trying to format it to a native


On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 6:44 PM Eric Oyen <<mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com>> wrote:
Ugh!
NTFS. No wonder you are having such issues. Any way to move stuff off there and reformat to a more appropriate FS (like ext4, MurderFS or the like)?

One thing I have found when dealing with NTFS, I would rather do so inside a file image that gets synced from a physical drive. This way, even the partition info is retained. I also do that with my Mac here when operating time machine backups. I created a file that was then formatted with OSX extended FS, setup a few perms and let fly. This way, one of my external drives can handle backups from multiple Macs without running into machine confusion as to which backup belongs to what.

-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Backups-R-us Dept.



On Jan 31, 2019, at 12:31 PM, Michael <<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:

Its been running for about four minutes now and the drive is just flashing.
This is what I ran:
bmike1@MikesBeast:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/test
[sudo] password for bmike1:
Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which
could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
<then I realized it was automounted>
bmike1@MikesBeast:~$ sudo umount /dev/sdc1
bmike1@MikesBeast:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/test
bmike1@MikesBeast:~$ find /mnt/test -type f -exec cp "{}" /dev/null \;

Is this correct?

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:41 PM <<mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com>> wrote:
> Nope. I'm thinking the external drive is dieing.
Do:
mount /dev/<my-dieing-hardrive> /some/where
find /some/where/ -type f -exec cp "{}" /dev/null \;
dmesg|grep '/dev/<my-dieing-hardrive>'

You'll find a bunch of errors to validate your hunch or you'll fine none to
rule it out.
ET

PS: I didn't 'sticking up for you'.
I want to have you around so I can harass you at will! ;-)
You are a good man Mike, and you have my appreciation and utmost respect.



Michael writes:

> Nope. I'm thinking the external drive is dieing.
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:19 AM Eric Oyen <<mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com>> wrote:
>
>> No problem. Btw, did you ever figure out that latest little issue (I think
>> it was with rsync)?
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2019, at 6:35 AM, Michael <<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> ET and Eric.... thanks for sticking up for me.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:10 AM Eric Oyen <<mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> No. He is definitely not a troll and like me, he has some challenges that
>>> can get in the way of properly dealing with the world. So, yeah, his brain
>>> is wired differently. SO what! So is min, incidentally. On top of having to
>>> deal with the lifelong effects of a traumatic brain injury (courtesy of a
>>> hit and run driver in 1989), I am also totally blind. Does this make me any
>>> less a person? Hell no! Does it mean I might require extra help from time
>>> to time? You betcha!
>>>
>>> So, before you go applying that label, please consider the mind behind
>>> the post before making that judgement.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Eric
>>> From the central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Special Services and
>>> activities Dept.
>>>
>>> > On Jan 30, 2019, at 7:55 AM, <mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > No Alexander, Michael is not trolling.
>>> > I know Michael personally and he is a great guy.
>>> > He faces some challenges that most of us don't even know exist, and he
>>> overcomes most of them remarkably.
>>> > I will not extend about the challenges he faces, but I will indicate
>>> that he deserves the patience, the help and the respect.
>>> > Not all hackers are created equally... :)
>>> > Best!
>>> > Enrique A. Troconis
>>> >
>>> > Snyder, Alexander J writes:
>>> >> I often wonder if the vague emails from "Michael" are just trolling the
>>> >> Plug Distro... testing our patience and willingness to help! "I can't
>>> log in" ....
>>> >> "How do I print" ... Thanks,
>>> >> Alexander. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
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