This is a great idea!
ET
Andrew McRobb writes:
> I would run Memtest and see whats going on first. Random freezes can be a
> sign of bad RAM, especially if you are using older computer parts. I would
> first run Memtest from the boot menu of your OS and test the sticks and see
> if any errors throw up.
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 9:18 PM Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> this is a new happening. the computer has hummed along nicely for more
>> than two years now.
>> $ sudo lshw
>> [sudo] password for bmike1:
>> mikesbeast
>> description: Desktop Computer
>> product: GA-MA785G-UD3H
>> vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
>> width: 64 bits
>> capabilities: smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 vsyscall32
>> configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop
>> uuid=36434630-3439-3032-3031-3031FFFFFFFF
>> *-core
>> description: Motherboard
>> product: GA-MA785G-UD3H
>> vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
>> physical id: 0
>> version: x.x
>> *-firmware
>> description: BIOS
>> vendor: Award Software International, Inc.
>> physical id: 0
>> version: F4
>> date: 09/16/2009
>> size: 128KiB
>> capacity: 960KiB
>> capabilities: isa pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing cdboot
>> bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 int13floppy720
>> int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer
>> int10video acpi usb agp ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification
>> *-cpu
>> description: CPU
>> product: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
>> physical id: 4
>> bus info: cpu@0
>> version: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
>> slot: Socket M2
>> size: 1900MHz
>> capacity: 3GHz
>> width: 64 bits
>> clock: 200MHz
>> capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce
>> cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht
>> syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow
>> constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_apicid pni monitor cx16
>> popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse
>> 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt hw_pstate vmmcall npt lbrv svm_lock
>> nrip_save cpufreq
>> *-cache:0
>> description: L1 cache
>> physical id: a
>> slot: Internal Cache
>> size: 128KiB
>> capacity: 128KiB
>> capabilities: synchronous internal write-back
>> configuration: level=1
>> *-cache:1
>> description: L2 cache
>> physical id: c
>> slot: External Cache
>> size: 512KiB
>> capacity: 512KiB
>> capabilities: synchronous internal write-back
>> configuration: level=2
>> *-cache
>> description: L1 cache
>> physical id: b
>> slot: Internal Cache
>> size: 128KiB
>> capacity: 128KiB
>> capabilities: synchronous internal write-back
>> configuration: level=1
>> *-memory
>> description: System Memory
>> physical id: 28
>> slot: System board or motherboard
>> size: 8GiB
>> *-bank:0
>> description: DIMM 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
>> product: None
>> vendor: None
>> physical id: 0
>> serial: None
>> slot: A0
>> size: 2GiB
>> width: 64 bits
>> clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
>> *-bank:1
>> description: DIMM 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
>> product: None
>> vendor: None
>> physical id: 1
>> serial: None
>> slot: A1
>> size: 2GiB
>> width: 64 bits
>> clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
>> *-bank:2
>> description: DIMM 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
>> product: None
>> vendor: None
>> physical id: 2
>> serial: None
>> slot: A2
>> size: 2GiB
>> width: 64 bits
>> clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
>> *-bank:3
>> description: DIMM 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
>> product: None
>> vendor: None
>> physical id: 3
>> serial: None
>> slot: A3
>> size: 2GiB
>> width: 64 bits
>> clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
>> *-pci:0
>> description: Host bridge
>> product: RS880 Host Bridge
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
>> physical id: 100
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
>> version: 00
>> width: 64 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> configuration: latency=32
>> *-pci:0
>> description: PCI bridge
>> product: RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 0)
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
>> physical id: 2
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode
>> bus_master cap_list
>> configuration: driver=pcieport
>> resources: irq:18 ioport:e000(size=4096)
>> memory:fdf00000-fdffffff ioport:d0000000(size=268435456)
>> *-display
>> description: VGA compatible controller
>> product: RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 0
>> bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
>> version: 00
>> width: 64 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master
>> cap_list rom
>> configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
>> resources: irq:25 memory:d0000000-dfffffff
>> memory:fdfe0000-fdfeffff ioport:ee00(size=256) memory:c0000-dffff
>> *-multimedia
>> description: Audio device
>> product: RV770 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4850/4870]
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 0.1
>> bus info: pci@0000:01:00.1
>> version: 00
>> width: 64 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list
>> configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
>> resources: irq:26 memory:fdffc000-fdffffff
>> *-pci:1
>> description: PCI bridge
>> product: RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 5)
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
>> physical id: a
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode
>> bus_master cap_list
>> configuration: driver=pcieport
>> resources: irq:18 ioport:d000(size=4096)
>> memory:fde00000-fdefffff ioport:fdb00000(size=1048576)
>> *-network
>> description: Ethernet interface
>> product: RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
>> Controller
>> vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>> physical id: 0
>> bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
>> logical name: enp2s0
>> version: 02
>> serial: 6c:f0:49:02:01:01
>> size: 10Mbit/s
>> capacity: 1Gbit/s
>> width: 64 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master
>> cap_list rom ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt
>> 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
>> configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes
>> driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=half latency=0 link=no
>> multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
>> resources: irq:18 ioport:de00(size=256)
>> memory:fdbff000-fdbfffff memory:fdbe0000-fdbeffff memory:fde00000-fde0ffff
>> *-storage
>> description: SATA controller
>> product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [IDE mode]
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 11
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:11.0
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> capabilities: storage pm ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list
>> configuration: driver=ahci latency=32
>> resources: irq:22 ioport:ff00(size=8) ioport:fe00(size=4)
>> ioport:fd00(size=8) ioport:fc00(size=4) ioport:fb00(size=16)
>> memory:fe02f000-fe02f3ff
>> *-usb:0
>> description: USB controller
>> product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 12
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:12.0
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> capabilities: ohci bus_master
>> configuration: driver=ohci-pci latency=32
>> resources: irq:16 memory:fe02e000-fe02efff
>> *-usbhost
>> product: OHCI PCI host controller
>> vendor: Linux 4.15.0-39-generic ohci_hcd
>> physical id: 1
>> bus info: usb@3
>> logical name: usb3
>> version: 4.15
>> capabilities: usb-1.10
>> configuration: driver=hub slots=3 speed=12Mbit/s
>> *-usb
>> description: Keyboard
>> product: Logitech USB Keyboard
>> vendor: Logitech
>> physical id: 3
>> bus info: usb@3:3
>> version: 28.00
>> capabilities: usb-1.10
>> configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA
>> speed=2Mbit/s
>> *-usb:1
>> description: USB controller
>> product: SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 12.1
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:12.1
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> capabilities: ohci bus_master
>> configuration: driver=ohci-pci latency=32
>> resources: irq:16 memory:fe02d000-fe02dfff
>> *-usbhost
>> product: OHCI PCI host controller
>> vendor: Linux 4.15.0-39-generic ohci_hcd
>> physical id: 1
>> bus info: usb@4
>> logical name: usb4
>> version: 4.15
>> capabilities: usb-1.10
>> configuration: driver=hub slots=3 speed=12Mbit/s
>> *-usb
>> description: Mouse
>> product: USB Optical Mouse
>> vendor: Primax Electronics, Ltd
>> physical id: 1
>> bus info: usb@4:1
>> version: 2.00
>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>> configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=98mA speed=2Mbit/s
>> *-usb:2
>> description: USB controller
>> product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 12.2
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:12.2
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
>> configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=32
>> resources: irq:17 memory:fe02c000-fe02c0ff
>> *-usbhost
>> product: EHCI Host Controller
>> vendor: Linux 4.15.0-39-generic ehci_hcd
>> physical id: 1
>> bus info: usb@1
>> logical name: usb1
>> version: 4.15
>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>> configuration: driver=hub slots=6 speed=480Mbit/s
>> *-usb
>> description: USB hub
>> product: USB2.0 Hub
>> vendor: Genesys Logic, Inc.
>> physical id: 1
>> bus info: usb@1:1
>> version: 7.02
>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>> configuration: driver=hub maxpower=100mA slots=4
>> speed=480Mbit/s
>> *-usb:0
>> description: Audio device
>> product: HD Webcam C525
>> vendor: Logitech, Inc.
>> physical id: 3
>> bus info: usb@1:1.3
>> version: 0.10
>> serial: 4E722DD0
>> capabilities: usb-2.00 audio-control
>> configuration: driver=uvcvideo maxpower=500mA
>> speed=480Mbit/s
>> *-usb:1
>> description: USB hub
>> product: USB 2.0 Hub
>> vendor: Terminus Technology Inc.
>> physical id: 4
>> bus info: usb@1:1.4
>> version: 1.11
>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>> configuration: driver=hub maxpower=100mA slots=4
>> speed=480Mbit/s
>> *-usb
>> description: Mass storage device
>> product: Flash Card Reader/Writer
>> vendor: Generic
>> physical id: 4
>> bus info: usb@1:1.4.4
>> logical name: scsi6
>> version: 1.00
>> serial: 058F63666438
>> capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
>> configuration: driver=usb-storage maxpower=100mA
>> speed=480Mbit/s
>> *-disk
>> description: SCSI Disk
>> physical id: 0.0.0
>> bus info: scsi@6:0.0.0
>> logical name: /dev/sdb
>> configuration: logicalsectorsize=512
>> sectorsize=512
>> *-usb:3
>> description: USB controller
>> product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 13
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:13.0
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> capabilities: ohci bus_master
>> configuration: driver=ohci-pci latency=32
>> resources: irq:18 memory:fe02b000-fe02bfff
>> *-usbhost
>> product: OHCI PCI host controller
>> vendor: Linux 4.15.0-39-generic ohci_hcd
>> physical id: 1
>> bus info: usb@5
>> logical name: usb5
>> version: 4.15
>> capabilities: usb-1.10
>> configuration: driver=hub slots=3 speed=12Mbit/s
>> *-usb:4
>> description: USB controller
>> product: SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 13.1
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:13.1
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> capabilities: ohci bus_master
>> configuration: driver=ohci-pci latency=32
>> resources: irq:18 memory:fe02a000-fe02afff
>> *-usbhost
>> product: OHCI PCI host controller
>> vendor: Linux 4.15.0-39-generic ohci_hcd
>> physical id: 1
>> bus info: usb@6
>> logical name: usb6
>> version: 4.15
>> capabilities: usb-1.10
>> configuration: driver=hub slots=3 speed=12Mbit/s
>> *-usb:5
>> description: USB controller
>> product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 13.2
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:13.2
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
>> configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=32
>> resources: irq:19 memory:fe029000-fe0290ff
>> *-usbhost
>> product: EHCI Host Controller
>> vendor: Linux 4.15.0-39-generic ehci_hcd
>> physical id: 1
>> bus info: usb@2
>> logical name: usb2
>> version: 4.15
>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>> configuration: driver=hub slots=6 speed=480Mbit/s
>> *-serial UNCLAIMED
>> description: SMBus
>> product: SBx00 SMBus Controller
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 14
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0
>> version: 3c
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> capabilities: ht cap_list
>> configuration: latency=0
>> *-ide
>> description: IDE interface
>> product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 14.1
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:14.1
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> capabilities: ide msi bus_master cap_list
>> configuration: driver=pata_atiixp latency=32
>> resources: irq:16 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6
>> ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:fa00(size=16)
>> *-multimedia
>> description: Audio device
>> product: SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 14.2
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:14.2
>> version: 00
>> width: 64 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
>> configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=32
>> resources: irq:16 memory:fe024000-fe027fff
>> *-isa
>> description: ISA bridge
>> product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 14.3
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:14.3
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> capabilities: isa bus_master
>> configuration: latency=0
>> *-pci:2
>> description: PCI bridge
>> product: SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 14.4
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:14.4
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> capabilities: pci subtractive_decode bus_master vga_palette
>> resources: ioport:c000(size=4096) memory:fdd00000-fddfffff
>> memory:fdc00000-fdcfffff
>> *-network
>> description: Wireless interface
>> product: RT5362 PCI 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter
>> vendor: Ralink corp.
>> physical id: 6
>> bus info: pci@0000:03:06.0
>> logical name: wlp3s6
>> version: 00
>> serial: e4:be:ed:04:95:ca
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical
>> wireless
>> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rt2800pci
>> driverversion=4.15.0-39-generic firmware=0.34 ip=10.0.0.6 latency=32
>> link=yes maxlatency=4 mingnt=2 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
>> resources: irq:20 memory:fdde0000-fddeffff
>> *-firewire
>> description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
>> product: TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
>> vendor: Texas Instruments
>> physical id: e
>> bus info: pci@0000:03:0e.0
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> capabilities: pm ohci bus_master cap_list
>> configuration: driver=firewire_ohci latency=32
>> maxlatency=4 mingnt=2
>> resources: irq:22 memory:fddff000-fddff7ff
>> memory:fddf8000-fddfbfff
>> *-usb:6
>> description: USB controller
>> product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
>> physical id: 14.5
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:14.5
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 66MHz
>> capabilities: ohci bus_master
>> configuration: driver=ohci-pci latency=32
>> resources: irq:18 memory:fe028000-fe028fff
>> *-usbhost
>> product: OHCI PCI host controller
>> vendor: Linux 4.15.0-39-generic ohci_hcd
>> physical id: 1
>> bus info: usb@7
>> logical name: usb7
>> version: 4.15
>> capabilities: usb-1.10
>> configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
>> *-pci:1
>> description: Host bridge
>> product: Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
>> physical id: 101
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:18.0
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> *-pci:2
>> description: Host bridge
>> product: Family 10h Processor Address Map
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
>> physical id: 102
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:18.1
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> *-pci:3
>> description: Host bridge
>> product: Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
>> physical id: 103
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:18.2
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> *-pci:4
>> description: Host bridge
>> product: Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
>> physical id: 104
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:18.3
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> configuration: driver=k10temp
>> resources: irq:0
>> *-pci:5
>> description: Host bridge
>> product: Family 10h Processor Link Control
>> vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
>> physical id: 105
>> bus info: pci@0000:00:18.4
>> version: 00
>> width: 32 bits
>> clock: 33MHz
>> *-scsi
>> physical id: 1
>> logical name: scsi0
>> capabilities: emulated
>> *-disk
>> description: ATA Disk
>> product: ST500DM002-1BD14
>> vendor: Seagate
>> physical id: 0.0.0
>> bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
>> logical name: /dev/sda
>> version: KC45
>> serial: Z2AV4105
>> size: 465GiB (500GB)
>> capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
>> configuration: ansiversion=5 logicalsectorsize=512
>> sectorsize=4096 signature=2d180100
>> *-volume:0
>> description: EXT4 volume
>> vendor: Linux
>> physical id: 1
>> bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,1
>> logical name: /dev/sda1
>> logical name: /
>> version: 1.0
>> serial: a0b38ba2-188f-4efb-bbeb-33bbd9c268e2
>> size: 457GiB
>> capacity: 457GiB
>> capabilities: primary bootable journaled
>> extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink extents ext4 ext2
>> initialized
>> configuration: created=2018-04-12 21:26:24 filesystem=ext4
>> lastmountpoint=/ modified=2018-12-14 15:25:15 mount.fstype=ext4
>> mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered mounted=2018-12-14
>> 10:31:36 state=mounted
>> *-volume:1
>> description: Extended partition
>> physical id: 2
>> bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,2
>> logical name: /dev/sda2
>> size: 8189MiB
>> capacity: 8189MiB
>> capabilities: primary extended partitioned
>> partitioned:extended
>> *-logicalvolume
>> description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
>> physical id: 5
>> logical name: /dev/sda5
>> capacity: 8189MiB
>> capabilities: nofs
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 4:10 PM Jim <jim.nantz15@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I used to have an HP computer. It would lock up at random when it was
>>> running linux. I found out later that there was a bug in the bios it was
>>> using that only affected linux, and HP wasn't interested, at that time in
>>> fixing the bug. Others might have better luck coming up with a solution if
>>> you can tell the list what hardware is in this computer of yours.
>>> On 12/14/18 7:14 AM, Michael wrote:
>>>
>>> I start linux and everything is good. But after I start Chrome sometimes
>>> it freezes. Any ideas as to why?
>>> --
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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>>
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