Re: NVMe: was Building a Linux Computer?

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Author: Steve Litt
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To: plug-discuss
Subject: Re: NVMe: was Building a Linux Computer?
Maybe you can get a rip-roaring machine, but how so if that post 2005
computer can't boot of NVMe? What do you do, take the UEFI info and
the /boot off another drive, and use the NVMe for / ? Or do you boot
off another drive, and then carve up the (assumedly small) NVMe
into /usr, /lib, /run ? Life gets a lot more complicated if the machine
can't boot the NVMe.

SteveT

On Wed, 23 May 2018 01:16:21 -0700
Eric Oyen <> wrote:

> well, the beauty about the "add-in" cards is that you can use any
> PCI-e slot on just about any desktop that is newer than vintage 2005.
> YYou will end up with a rip-roaring fast machine. :)
>
> -eric
>
> On May 22, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Carruth, Rusty wrote:
>
> > Oohh! Oohh!! Something I can answer :-)
> >
> > 1 - yes and no. Yes, you can replace, but no, you (almost
> > certainly) need to get a PCIe card which converts PCIe on the
> > motherboard to NVMe on the ssd. We have one of those at work, not
> > too expensive as I recall.
> >
> > 2 - You should be able to. Don't know if that's implemented or not.
> >
> > 3 - /dev/nvme0n1 as an example. So, for SATA, its /dev/sd<x> for
> > nvme, you get a /dev/nvme0 and then you get /dev/nvme0n1 for the
> > actual drive, as I remember. I don't remember what the partitions
> > turn up as, but I THINK they were /dev/nvme0n1p1 or something like
> > that. A second NVMe drive would be /dev/nvme0n2 I think.
> >
> > 4 - it should. Now, you MIGHT need some updated stuff, for example
> > smartctl may or may not work with NVMe on your distro. And you'll
> > probably need to download the nvme tool that gives you control sort
> > of like hdparm. Using an 'old' distribution might be a problem
> > (for some value of 'old')
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org]
> > On Behalf Of Steve Litt Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:30 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: NVMe: was Building a Linux Computer?
> >
> > On Tue, 22 May 2018 13:57:29 -0700
> > Brian Cluff <> wrote:
> >
> >> For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe. They are about
> >> the same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow.
> >
> > This is the first I've heard of NVMe. I just read
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express , and now have some
> > questions:
> >
> > 1) Can I replace the spinning platter 2.5" hard disk in my 5 year
> > old laptop with an NVMe device? My research tells me an NVMe must
> > plug into a PCIe slot rather than a SATA slot.
> >
> > 2) Do you fstrim NVMe-hosted partitions the same way you do for SSD?
> >
> > 3) When you install an NVMe card in a PCIe slot, what device name
> > shows up? Is it sd-whatever, or something else?
> >
> > 4) If my desktop has a free PCIe slot, does that mean I can plug in
> > an NVIe drive and use it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > SteveT
> >
> > Steve Litt
> > June 2018 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
> > http://www.troubleshooters.com/28
> >
> >
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