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Author: Stephen Partington
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast
To be fair they are reasonable ports to block. And they have relaxed on 443
and 22/21 since I started.

On Nov 20, 2017 9:34 AM, "kelly stephenson" <>
wrote:

> Good solution, my previous provider didn't block anything so it caught me
> off guard when I went to open that port. Cox residential blocks quite a
> few ports it turns out.
>
> On Nov 19, 2017 8:20 PM, "Stephen Partington" <>
> wrote:
>
>> Google Domains will do a pure redirect of all 80 to any URL. even https
>> over http.
>>
>> Https is not blocked.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 7:54 PM, kelly stephenson <
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Cox blocks incoming port 80 requests, what is your plan to get around
>>> this for your web site you plan on hosting?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2017 7:01 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> oh joy! they would make you have to adapt to a new technology.
>>>>
>>>> -eric
>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, You can't get there
>>>> from here Dept.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am looking at a node.js nginx build because my current hosting
>>>> company won't support node.js without a Vps and I cannot wrap my head
>>>> around the Google cloud app engine yet for posting node.js yet.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 6:50 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> yep. :)
>>>>> I am going to have to setup a DMZ on my personal router pointed to a
>>>>> specific machine. there I will have to setup the web server, a site (which
>>>>> I will need to register) and a few other goodies. nice thing about my
>>>>> router, I can assign separate subnet segments to each port. this way, if
>>>>> anyone gets control of the web server, about all they can see is that
>>>>> subnet (and the administrative interface for the router will definitely be
>>>>> locked out on that port, so no control there either).
>>>>>
>>>>> my only questiild, IT support Dept.
>>>>> on, what to use as a web server (I am also looking at putting an SDR
>>>>> on there for remote hf/vhf/uhf/shf reception). I was thinking a raspberry
>>>>> pie late generation.
>>>>>
>>>>> -eric
>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Gu
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I got in when they were around 2 tb. And since then they reset it to
>>>>> unlimited.
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny thing is running my own web server of an SSD cached Mac mini
>>>>> runs like a champ.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 5:29 PM, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> well,
>>>>>> it took a little thinking to come up with the figure they quote for
>>>>>> monthly usage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Consider that a typical 1080p Hi-def video stream is about 750
>>>>>> Kb/sec. if left going 24/7 for 30 days, that would be 2.7 GB per hour or
>>>>>> about 64 Gb per day. over the course of a month, that is: 1.944 Tb. now, so
>>>>>> far as I know, no one leaves their TV on live stream 24/7 for 30 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so, given normal usage patterns (tv watching of about 20 hours per
>>>>>> week), plus web browsing and email, etc, 1 TB would be max typical for a
>>>>>> standard residential circuit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now, I do have a room mate who falls asleep with the tv streaming
>>>>>> some content or another, so it's quite possible that we are over 1 TB for
>>>>>> the last 30 days. Since I am on biz class here, I don't have to worry about
>>>>>> that 1 TB cap. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Internet streaming
>>>>>> Dept.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow... so they are literally selling you a connection that you can
>>>>>> exceed your monthly allowance in a little over 15 minutes of use if you
>>>>>> could find a service that would saturate your connection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LAME!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian Cluff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/19/2017 03:26 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow. Looks like they did change it right after I got it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.cox.com/aboutus/policies/speeds-and-data-plans.h
>>>>>> tml?zip=85228
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:48 PM, "Jerry Snitselaar" <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun Nov 19 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Last I read gigablast was 2t not 1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What it shows on the page for services and offers is 1024gb. Could
>>>>>>> be a typo,
>>>>>>> but the offer details page also said all plans offer 1024gb data.
>>>>>>> Will find
>>>>>>> out when I call. :) Would be nice if it was 2t, that would mean I
>>>>>>> could drop
>>>>>>> the $30 I pay for the extra 500gb cushion each month, and basically
>>>>>>> pay what
>>>>>>> I'm paying now to get gigablast. I do think I remember seeing
>>>>>>> something at
>>>>>>> one point where it was 2t, but that was a while ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2017 12:05 PM, <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat Nov 18 17, Stephen Partington wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is what i had before gig. And the service was great. But i use
>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>> more than 1t of data in a month. So gig was actually a savings.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They have capped new gigablast subscribers with the 1tb limit
>>>>>>>> unfortunately.
>>>>>>>> If you had it prior to late Sept, then you continue to get the
>>>>>>>> unlimited
>>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017 4:38 PM, <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am using Cox Communications "Ultimate" package. 300 Mbps
>>>>>>>>> download, 30
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mbps upload, with measured values usually 5 to 10 percent above
>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>> values. Also I get 1 Tbyte usage per month. the price is $100
>>>>>>>>>> per month.
>>>>>>>>>> I am very pleased with this service.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --------- Original Message ---------
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cox Gigablast
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Eric Oyen" <>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: 11/18/17 10:48 am
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> let me dig up the sales number for cox business.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find the phone number directly, but there is this site
>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cox.com/business/contact-us/contact-sales.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just called them through their residential number. they gave me
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> number for direct contact: 800-529-5118 <(800)%20529-5118>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> btw, I am on cox business premier service. it's 50 mbits/11 mbits
>>>>>>>>>> for only
>>>>>>>>>> $79 monthly. I also use chrome cast here from youtube tv for
>>>>>>>>>> about $35 a
>>>>>>>>>> month. so, I am definitely spending over $140 less than I would
>>>>>>>>>> be for
>>>>>>>>>> residential service (including tv).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eric Oyen
>>>>>>>>>> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Support
>>>>>>>>>> Referrals Dept.
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think I'll take you up on that. Any information on how I get to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> promised land would be very welcome!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017 10:20, "Eric Oyen" <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you might have to call cox business and speak to Jame Hidalgo. He
>>>>>>>>>> is my
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> contact over there. btw, business class internet doesn't suffer
>>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>>> hard cap that you got charged for this last time out. they might
>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> access to the fiber that you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> now, sure, most of the tier 1 droids at residential customer
>>>>>>>>>>> service are
>>>>>>>>>>> good people. However, anyone who has ever worked a CSr desk
>>>>>>>>>>> knows that
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> all have to run from a script.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> anyway, if you call Jame Hidalgo at cox business, please tell
>>>>>>>>>>> him who
>>>>>>>>>>> referred you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Eric OYen
>>>>>>>>>>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Internet
>>>>>>>>>>> services
>>>>>>>>>>> referrals Dept.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:44 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Asked for a supervisor.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-11-17 12:38, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kind of irritated by this ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cox lays fiber in my subdivision, has the service trucks wrapped
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> "Gigablast" vinyl adverts ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Service folk gladly sharing that "it's for gigablast" ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did my giddy dance, nerdgasm, the whole 9 yards ...
>>>>>>>>>>> #ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I called them each week and spoke to customer service folks that
>>>>>>>>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>>>>> to be less informed than the guy last week ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bro ... that was 6 months ago. >:-(
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The only major development was Cox billing me for going over 1TB
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth a month.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Friends in Auhtukee and Glendale have it, and are quite happy
>>>>>>>>>>> with it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Why can't I have this happiness?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> AloneAndHopless ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2017 12:13, "Jerry Snitselaar" <>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone using this service? It looks like it finally arrived in
>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> neighborhood. I'd prefer to try Google Fiber, but that seems to
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> dead in the valley since their competitors complained about the
>>>>>>>>>>>> deals
>>>>>>>>>>>> they were able to make with the cities. So tempted to upgrade
>>>>>>>>>>>> to this.
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