Something to consider with text display on a "TV" is to turn off most of
the movement enhancing functions.
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:08 PM, der.hans <
PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
> Am 15. Nov, 2017 schwätzte David Schwartz so:
>
> moin moin,
>
> yeah, I ended up with the 50" TV because one of my 27" monitors went out
> and the TV was the same price as a new pair of matching 27" monitors, but
> with the space of 4 27" monitors.
>
> During Q4 I need to keep an eye on lots of metrics and graphs with circles
> and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what it is.
> It was awesome to have so much screen real estate.
>
> My current half-baked plan is to mount the behemoth on the wall with the
> raisable wall mount to go with the standing desk. That will then house my
> NOC display with all the pretty graphs.
>
> The new monitor would then be my work desk for a boatload of xterms and
> an unfortunately growing number of browser windows. Also, Slack sucks and
> eats way too much screen real estate.
>
> I'm finding that several feet of width needs a curved screen for me. Aging
> eyes and too many parallel tasks.
>
> The biggest need is better text display, but might as well get all the
> reasonable features I want since it's not an emergency this time. I'll do
> fine with the current setup, but it would be good to have something with
> less eye strain.
>
> The monitor death last year was going into the busiest weekend for the, at
> the time, new $dayjob. I couldn't afford to be down to a single 27"
> postage stamp-sized display :).
>
> Brian pointed me at http://www.rtings.com/ as a great site for comparing
> TVs. It was really useful.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
> Curved screens are about 2x the cost of non-curved screens. I think
>> they’re way over-rated, mainly because they’re only curved along one axis.
>>
>> If I were to buy something “curved”, I’d get a spherical curve, which
>> nobody makes (yet).
>>
>> A 55” TV as a monitor is equivalent to 4 x 27” HD monitors in a single
>> panel. A truly awesome experience to behold!
>>
>> A couple of years ago I got a Seiki 39” 4K TV on sale for around $350 and
>> used it as a monitor with my MacBook Pro for quite a while. It does a great
>> job. (I’d love to sell it if anybody is interested.)
>>
>> My aging eyes don’t work well with things close-up, and a 39” 4K is
>> roughly equivalent to 4 x 20” monitors. I can no longer look at 20”
>> monitors for very long. Even 24” monitors are a challenge.
>>
>> But I can look at 27” screens all day without fatigue. And I don’t even
>> need my reading glasses much of the time.
>>
>> So I recently upgraded to a mid-range 55” LG WebOS UJ6300 TV. Boy, what a
>> nightmare it has been. (more on that shortly)
>>
>> After I got it and had trouble making it work well, I dug around the
>> interwebs for quite a while and managed to find a few blogs where people
>> actually posted results of trying different 4K TVs as computer monitors.
>>
>> Believe it or not, it seems like the low-end 4K TVs are far better suited
>> for use as computer monitors than fancier ones.
>>
>> My LG TV cost me around $850. I’ve seen them for $650 lately, but I would
>> definitely NOT recommend LG TVs (or higher-end TVs) for use as a monitor.
>>
>> The reason is … the fancier TVs have logic in them to “optimize” the
>> picture and reduce flicker and artifacts and other weird stuff.
>>
>> That is to say, they make motion videos (both HD and 4K) look AWESOME at
>> 4K resolution. But computer monitors are anything BUT “motion videos”.
>>
>> Besides that, this thing has so many frigging settings on it that it took
>> me several sessions drilling through multiple settings and testing stuff
>> before I got it to look halfway decent.
>>
>> Just locking it in 4:4:4 mode is amazingly convoluted.
>>
>> The screen on this LG is sharp as hell at 4K, but the colors are funky,
>> and I’ve spent way too much time trying to fix them.
>>
>> My suggestion is simple: go to Costco and buy the cheapest 4K 55” (or
>> smaller if you prefer) TV that they have. I think it’s something like TLC
>> brand with built-in Roku for around $425.
>>
>> Try it out and if you don’t like it, take it back.
>>
>> The Samsung 6300 is highly rated as a monitor as well, but I think it’s
>> no longer being sold.
>>
>> Do NOT get an LG TV for use as a monitor. However, if you want to watch
>> movies on it in your living room, then it’s an EXCELLENT choice.
>>
>> FWIW, there are 4K monitors now that are 27” and smaller. I might have
>> been able to see them 15 years ago, but when your eyes start to “age-out”,
>> it’s a lost cause.
>>
>> I *LOVE* the real estate that a 4K display offers, and having the
>> equivalent of 4 x 27” HD screens on one panel is perfect for my eyes today.
>>
>> Yes, the edges are a few inches further away than the center, but my
>> eyesight is fine for anything more than about 4’ away. So a curved screen
>> would be of no particular benefit to me.
>>
>> (Think of your typical desktop — do you need it to be curved to have
>> stuff spread out? No! You simply grab what you need and pull it in front of
>> you.)
>>
>> -David Schwartz
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 2:11 PM, der.hans <PLUGd@LuftHans.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> moin moin,
>>>
>>> I'm considering a wide, curved 4k monitor.
>>>
>>> I'll be connecting to an HDMI port.
>>>
>>> I'm currently using a 4k TV with text display issues. It was the best
>>> option at the time, but my eyes really, really want a better text
>>> display.
>>> I'm also finding that a wide flat display is less than ideal, hence the
>>> desire for curved.
>>>
>>> Any recommendations for specific monitors? Places of acquisition?
>>>
>>> I normally ignore black Friday sales, but this year many of them appear
>>> to
>>> be black November sales. That works better for me, if I'm going to change
>>> I need to do so before Thanksgiving as that's when silly season hits full
>>> swing for $dayjob.
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
>>> der.hans
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