It keeps me employed as my business and personal both, less annoyance at
system instability slapping against the 32gb limit, and feeds my tech
fetishes, so it's worth it to me. I cobbled it together myself from mostly
used/refurbed parts as cheap as possible (cpu/mobo/case/mem), rest like
ssd's and video were new, and was around $4k for the parts all together.
Pricey yes, but considering a similar server/workstation from dell easly
costs upward of $8-10k in a same config, I'm still money ahead. I could
spend that much on some pos alienware system with glow-y lights and glitzy
things with half the functionality.
-mb
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Snyder, Alexander J <
alex@misteralexander.com> wrote:
> 50-60 GBs of RAM consistently?!? A LAPTOP with 128GB of memory?!!?
>
> I assume you go swimming in your pile of money each night after work, Mr.
> McDuck!
>
> ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> Alex.
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
>
> On Sep 6, 2017 13:07, "Michael Butash" <michael@butash.net> wrote:
>
>> I do run a lot of VM's, almost always at least a windoze vm for visio and
>> crappy conferencing software, sometimes playing with firewall or other
>> network appliances, sometimes linux monitoring system appliances I've
>> built, etc. That and I tend to run a lot of tabs, so 16gb of ram usually
>> just isn't enough from my last system. I just moved to 128gb of ram in my
>> desktop as 32gb I'd depelete quick too.
>>
>> I certain didn't need a 1tb ssd, but the cost difference was marginal
>> enough I said screw it. My last few laptops and desktops with 512gb of ssd
>> is just fine for me.
>>
>> I've tried the approach of running a vmware cluster at home for that
>> purpose with far more resources to run VM's in, but end of the day, the
>> heat/power wasn't worth it vs. just adding some ram and running what I
>> needed between my desktop and laptop. Plus vmware management is shite
>> anymore related to vcenter/esx, so for my needs, virtualbox is just fine.
>>
>> Another big reason for the ram is chrom[e|ium] is a fsck'ing pig still.
>> With my deskop usage, between chrome and vm's, it's not uncommon to run
>> around 50-60gb of ram all the time. I got tired of hitting EOM's and weird
>> lag across the board as memory usage would fluctuate greatly in desktop use.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:26 PM, <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What are you doing that requires a top of the line CPU, 32G RAM, and a
>>> 1T SSD?
>>>
>>> I'm a developer and am seeing a trend toward the cloud. PhpStorm
>>> provides for editing directly on the dev server, GIT for moving code onto
>>> the staging server and then onto the production server. I'm moving to
>>> Plesk that allows me to run PHP 5.6 for older code and PHP 7 for newer
>>> code, while running Ubuntu 16.04lts. Both versions of PHP on the same VPS.
>>>
>>> Given that a baseline laptop with decent graphics, 8G RAM, and a 128G
>>> SSD should be enough.
>>>
>>> Unless one is running many local virtual machines, doing some serious
>>> video or image work, or doing lots of compiling... I am think the cloud
>>> and thin client hardware is the way to go.
>>>
>>> Your thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2017-09-06 10:42, Michael Butash wrote:
>>>
>>> Yup, the precision 3000/5000 is almost a direct clone of the xps13/15,
>>> just with different graphics (geforce vs. quadro), wifi (atheros vs.
>>> intel), and proc (xeon options). Nothing else really different I could
>>> tell other than price. I went with the xps as consumer coupons go higher
>>> than precision discounts.
>>>
>>> I usually just shop bensbargains.com or dealnews, wait for a dell
>>> outlet refurb coupon to go 35-40% around a holiday, and score a laptop then
>>> for some steep savings. I got this xps15 loaded with the 4k display,
>>> nvidia gpu, 32gb ram, 1tb ssd for $1950 out the door. Worst part of buying
>>> from dell is sales tax. :(
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Stephen Partington <cryptworks@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have been seeing Ubuntu offered on their precision mobile
>>>> workstations...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Carruth, Rusty <
>>>> Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Actually, comparing the Alienware that I bought vs a very similar one
>>>>> at System 76:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alienware: 16G RAM, 4K display, 1T rotating drive, 128G SSD, I7-7700:
>>>>> List $2066, paid $1536
>>>>>
>>>>> System76: 16G RAM, 1080P, 2T rotating drive, 512G SSD,
>>>>> I7-7700: list under $1500.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, double the rotator size, 4x the SSD size, and remove the 4K
>>>>> display – and save around $500. I'd say 76 isn't bad, price-wise. The
>>>>> primary reason I got the alien was because of the 4K and similar price (I
>>>>> did a side-by-side comparison at the store. 4K really is better, and when I
>>>>> got home and booted Linux on it – whoa!). (Don't know which video card
>>>>> they each had – I'm not going to be doing gaming (much?) so don't care that
>>>>> much... I think)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, live booting the Mint 17.3 DVD resulted in no Ethernet
>>>>> or WiFi. I'm downloading 18.2 now to see if that's better, as a google
>>>>> search seems to imply it is. But the display! Oh, my goodness!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, by the way – the alienware has only ONE 'standard' disk slot, but
>>>>> 3, yes THREE M.2 slots – one very short, the other 2 full-length. And only
>>>>> 2 RAM slots. Which is too bad – my Lenovo for work (17" also) has 2
>>>>> standard slots and 2 M.2 slots (and 4 RAM slots) – I mean, its not like
>>>>> they don't have ROOM, for goodness sake! But then, the Lenovo was almost
>>>>> $3000. Of course, it had a 1TB SSD as well as 16G of ram and the TOP video
>>>>> card...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Michael
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 05, 2017 7:15 PM
>>>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> system76 is expensive too
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Phil Waclawski <
>>>>> phil.waclawski@mesacc.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a laptop from zareason that I've used for several years. It was
>>>>> a touch pricey, but still powerful enough to do a lot. They also will
>>>>> install different flavors of linux for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil Waclawski
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Mark Phillips <
>>>>> mark@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Rusty,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you check out System 76 laptops? They come with Ubuntu installed,
>>>>> but I think you can ask for any distro. I have been using their hardware
>>>>> for a couple of years, and it is flawless.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Michael Butash <michael@butash.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just went through this with a new dell, where I used the local
>>>>> windoze tools to make a usb backup imagine with their software to a 16gb
>>>>> drive, and just tossed it in a drawer if I ever need to restore things.
>>>>> That supposedly restores their recovery partitions and windoze itself,
>>>>> which should be everything...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd not put faith in some tier 1 rep telling you linux voids the
>>>>> warranty. It was probably one of those "What is linux? Yeah, don't do
>>>>> that." sort of comments ignorant agents might spew, but otherwise shouldn't
>>>>> matter. If you restore the disk and bios to prior function, they should be
>>>>> none the wiser anyways.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -mb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:37 AM, irb <irb_plug-d@maleficarum.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Carruth, Rusty (aka Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com) used 15K on Tue, 05
>>>>> Sep 2017 at 17:21 +0000 to say:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > (By the way – does anyone remember the 'windows refund day' many
>>>>> years back?
>>>>> > System vendors refused to honor the refund clause stated in the EULA
>>>>> (or
>>>>> > whatever it was), claiming that Microsoft had to honor it, and
>>>>> Micro$oft
>>>>> > claimed that it was the responsibility of the system vendors (which,
>>>>> indeed,
>>>>> > it was). But as far as I know, NOBODY got their refund.... Again,
>>>>> where's
>>>>> > the lawyers????)
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember that, as part of BALUG many years ago. I never got a refund
>>>>> and
>>>>> Microsoft tried to turn it to their advantage by setting up a booth. I
>>>>> think
>>>>> there's a documentary out there somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> When dealing with warranty crap from laptop vendors I just take an
>>>>> image of
>>>>> the drive. If I have to send it in I don't include the drive anyway,
>>>>> and I've
>>>>> never been given grief over it. Still, having an original hardware
>>>>> backup
>>>>> like that is kinda cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> /i.
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