On 2017-03-08 12:51, Bob Elzer wrote:
All this comes down to morals. Our constitution will not survive an
immoral people. Most of what the federal government is doing is not
authorized by the U.S. Constitution.
> They were probably just seeing into the future. Lol
>
> On Mar 8, 2017 12:39 PM, "Anon Anon" <lokotejones@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Remember the good old days when people who believed their tv was
>> watching them were crazy?
>>
>> On Mar 8, 2017 12:23 PM, "Matthew Crews" <mattcrews@mattcrews.com>
>> wrote:
>> Many smart TVs these days have built in cameras and microphones...
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017, 12:21 Bob Elzer <bob.elzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well they are welcome to listen in on me. But I don't have a
>> listening device, they are welcome to send me on of those 65"
>> Samsung devices, I'll make room for it.
>>
>> Are you reading this guy's ?
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2017 5:52 PM, "Eric Oyen" <eric.oyen@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> yeah, you are right there. However, they will have to eventually
>> justify those expenses, so the more expensive we make it for them,
>> the more likely it is that they may be forced to give up and let us
>> have more secure products.
>>
>> one other point to offer, we might end up having to file an FOIA
>> request to get the source code for all of these malware tools. then
>> we could take them apart, figure out how to disarm them and create
>> more secure linux devices. Then again, one can dream. :)
>>
>> -eric
>> From the central office of the Technomage Guild
>> special office: cyber security
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Anon Anon wrote:
>>
>> We could start a movement or group but they spend a lot of money
>> infiltrating those groups. There isnt a lot of ways to reliably
>> compete against their tactics....
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2017 17:07, "Eric Oyen" <eric.oyen@icloud.com> wrote:
>> OMFG!
>> *sigh* leave it to bureaucrats to completely foul things up as
>> usual. Now, had this come out some 20 years ago, people would have
>> thought it to be in the realm of science fiction. oh wait, there was
>> one such film: swordfish!
>>
>> perhaps its time we all started a consortium to combat this? I would
>> rather see a secure system that requires multiple levels of security
>> than this.
>>
>> -eric
>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild.
>> Special office: cyber security.
>>
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